Solex 3800 and 4600 Parts

May 27, 2012

Contents
1.   Flywheel magneto
2.   Clutch and drive roller
3.   Crankcase assembly
4.   Air filter and cylinder
5.   Carburetor and gas tank
6.   Engine supports
7.   Main frame
8.   Steering and fork assembly
9.   Controls
10. Front brake
11. Pedal assembly
12. Saddle assembly
13. Luggage carrier
14. Front wheel
15. Rear wheel
16. Headlight
17. Tail light
18. Engine gaurd and muffler
19. Control cables
20. Wiring
21. Solex 3800 Parts Lists

Part numbers: Most of the parts listed below have Motobecane part numbers 60000 to 69999. Some have Velosolex part numbers 00000 to 19999. On other lists there are also Velocruz part numbers 90000 to 99999, which are the Motobecane numbers with “9” instead of “6”.

 


1. Flywheel Magneto

Solex Parts Figure 1 Flywheel Magneto
# qty Solex# MB# price   1. Flywheel Magneto
1   1 00000 60771 $45.0 flywheel cover white

2   1 11797 60972 none  thin nut M10-1.25 x 3
3   1 11794 60969 $5.00rotor deflector
4   1 11795 60970 none  rubber gasket
5   1 11796 60971 $7.00flange nut M10 x 1.25 14hex .
6   1 00000 60845 none  rotor 4600 V1 and most 3800
6   1 12131 61219 none  rotor  4600 V2,V3 and some 3800 .
7   1 12703 61303 $3.00bolt M4 x 15 x 0.75 (not 0.70)
8   6 11081 60763 $3.00coil bolt M4 x 20 x 0.75 (not 0.70)
9   1 00056 60002 $1.00nut M4 x 0.75 3.5 height 3.5
10 1 11191 60802 none  condenser new in package
11 1 11117 60772 none  ignition coil SEV Marchal
12 1 13294 00000 $35.0lighting coil  for S4600 V2,V3
13 1 13309 00000 $35.0stoplight coil for S4600 V2,V3
15 1 00959 60084 $2.00bolt M4 x 10 x 0.75 (not 0.70)
16 1 11220 60805 $2.00circlip tiny clip for points
17 1 11219 60804 $2.00washer  fiber washer
18 1 12584 61014 none  contact set SEV Marchal original
19 2 00000 60036 none  washer
20 1 00000 60775 none  points
21 2 11147 60000 none  bolt
22 1 00000 60843 none  plug wire terminal
23 1 00000 61299 none  threaded terminal
24 1 00000 60934 none  plug wire complete

SEV Marchal  SEV means Société d’Equipements pour Véhicules automobiles.  SEV (France) has no relation to CEV (Italy). SEV combined with Marchal in 1963, and then was bought by Ferodo in 1970. Ferodo bought CIBIE lights, and then became Valeo in 1980.

 


2. Clutch and Drive Roller

Solex Parts Figure 2 Clutch and Drive Roller
# qty price  part#   2. Clutch and Drive Roller 
1   1 none  61215 bolt
2   1 none  11094 stator plate
3   1 none  60074 flywheel bearing

4   2 none  60491 crank nut M16-1.25 thin
5   2 $3.00 60815 clutch spring 
6   1 none  60978 clutch complete 
7   1 $15.0 60977 deflector and  gasket
8   1 none  61348 washer

9   1 none  61287 drive roller assy 
10 2 $5.00 60484 cover clip fresh rubber
11 2 none  60816 clutch pad

 


3. Crankcase

Solex Parts Figure 3 Crankcase Assembly
# qty price    MB#   3. Crankcase Assembly
1   1 none  60000 f

2   1 $3.00 60780 spark plug lead holder
3   1 none  62254 engine lever pre-74 no notches, for early crank
3   1 none  50021 engine lever ’74-on with notches for late crank
4   1 none  60792 spring

5   1 $10.0 60434 pump seating piece used
6   1 $17.0 60023 fuel pump membrane kept fresh in plastic
7   1 none  60846 fuel pump  
7   2 none  11469 fuel pump check ball  
7   2 none  00000 fuel pump ball seat  
8   4 none  60763 fuel pump bolt M4-0.75 x 20 (not 0.70)
9   2 $3.00 60056 bolt  M6 x 10 9hex
10 1 $7.00 60414 case gasket
11 2none  61361 washer
12 1none  60413 crankcase end cover

13 6 $2.00 60044 bolt M6 x 15  9hex
14 2 $2.00 60415 bolt M6 x 20 9hex
15 2 none  60000 f

16 1 none  60000 f

17 1 $2.00 60029 bolt M6 x 10 9hex/slot
18 4 $5.00 60015 cylinder stud  M6 x  30? good used
19 1 $5.00 60867 nut  M10-1.0 x 5 14hex
20 1 $5.00 60024 washer M10-0.8 x 19
21 1 $12.0 60849 spacer – bearing race M10 x 14 x 13.3
22 1 none  60497 rod with piston 
22 1 none  00000 rod needle bearing DL1413 20 od,14 id,13w
22 1 none  00000 piston needle bearing DL1212 18 od,12 id,12w3-22
23 1 none  62154 raising crank ball

24 1 none  62255 motor raising crank 4600 ’73-74 has no roller .
24 1 none  50025 motor raising crank 4600 ’75-on has a roller .
25 1 none  60792 spring
26 2 none  60019 washer
27 1 none  62211 crank guide
28 1 none  61342 crankcase with crankshaft
29 1 none  60421 bolt

30 3 $10.0 60817 piston ring 39.5 x 1.7 flat ends
31 1 none  61297 piston bare  see Velocruz engine #40

Solex 62254
Solex 62254 early & late

The Solex fuel pump membrane and maybe the plastic seats and balls are needed often to replace deteriorated 30-50 year old ones. It’s easier to replace the entire pump, membrane, and membrane seat, but more costly. When the top cap or post is unscrewed, the top check ball easily falls out and gets lost. Often a not working fuel pump only needs a ball, or a new membrane. The pump check balls can be tested by blowing and sucking through a piece of small rubber hose or fuel line. The lower line only blows and does not suck. The upper line only sucks and does not blow.

 


4. Air Filter and Cylinder

Solex Parts Figure 4 Air Filter and Cylinder
#    price    MB#   4. Air Filter and Cylinder
4   $5.00 60759 air filter collar
7   $5.00 60980 cover support
8   $6.00 60859 valve nut 
10 $7.00 61263 decomp lever
11 $3.00 60421 head bolt
12 none  62152 head plate 4600  no engage lever
12 none  00000 head plate 3800 with engage lever
13 $3.00 60786 spacer
16 $8.00 60016 cylinder gasket
18 $3.00 60000 nut D6-H6  M6 x 6 hex9
19 none  60496 cylinder   
20 $7.00 60437 head gasket  
21 $40.0 60821 cylinder head  good used
22 none  60858 decomp valve

 


5. Carburetor and Gas Tank

Solex Parts Figure 5 Carburetor and Gas Tank
#    MB#   price  5. Carburetor and Gas Tank
1   60918 none  gas tank for 3800 black metal
1     Z822 $90.0 gas tank for ’58-59 1400 .
2   60169 none  recirculation pipe
3   60176 none  tank lid washer  can use an o-ring
4   61376 $15.0 gas tank lid  good used black
5   60976 $15.0 overflow pipe
8   60753 none  muffler exhaust pipe
9   60964 none  gas return pipe 
10 60793 $3.00 bolt  M6 x ?? 9hex
12 60854 $12.0 cable bracket
13 60925 $10.0 throttle lever
17 00000 $9.00 fuel jet 26cc
17 00000 $9.00 fuel jet 27cc
17 60183 $12.0 fuel jet 28cc std
17 00000 $12.0 fuel jet 29cc
17 00000 $9.00 fuel jet 30cc
17 00000 $9.00 fuel jet 32cc 
19 60501 $5.00 choke lever 
20 60923 none  carburetor – USA
22 60441 $3.00 air filter gasket
23 00000 $8.00 air jet 275cc
23 00000 $8.00 air jet 301
23 00000 $8.00 air jet 401
23 00000 $8.00 air jet 551 
23 00000 $8.00 air jet 601
23 60406 $8.00 air jet 651 
23 00000 $8.00 air jet 901
24 60440 $10.0 choke assembly
26 60442 none  inlet pipe gasket
27 60445 $7.00 inlet pipe nut
28 60041 $7.00 pipe gasket
29 60785 $20.0 inlet-exhaust pipe  good used

Solex Tanks 1  Solex Tanks 2
Left, Z822 metal tank for 1958-59 Solex 1400
Right, plastic tank for 1973-79 4600, 5000

 


6. Engine Supports

Solex Parts Figure 6
#    MB#  price   6. Engine Supports
2   60827 $10.0 front mudguard used white one
3   60981 $10.0 engine plate right black
6   60031 $8.00 silentbloc  motor mount rubber tube
8   60935 $3.00 engine mount bolt 
9   60982 $10.0 engine plate left black
14 60824 $1.00 washer  M8 x 14 x 2.0
15 60474 $3.00 bolt  M8 x 15 x 1.0 thin flange hex
18 60987 $5.00 suspension spring 
20 60021 $2.00 friction washer M6 x 20 x 1.5
21 60778 $5.00 friction plate curved slot + hole
22 60022 $2.00 friction washer M8 x 20 x 1.5
24 60800 $5.00 special nut

 


7. Main Frame

Solex Parts Figure 7 Main Frame
#    MB#   price   7. Main Frame
2   60473 $8.00 frame bolt nut       $8
12 60490 $10.0 frame bolt            $12

 


8. Steering and Fork

Steering and Fork Assy
#    MB#   price   8. Steering and Fork Assy
4   61447 $2.00 handlebar bolt M8 x 22 x 1.0
18 60418 $3.00 bolt M6 x 12 9hex
21 61010 $7.00 splash guard clamp shiny new

 


9. Controls

 
Solex#  price   1. Solex ’61-86 2200 3300 3800
00555 none  pivot bolt
00556 none  pivot spacer
00708 none  grip
00788 none  nut
10004 none  

10005 $52.0 right control
10006 none  left control 
10031 none  
10307 none  decomp screw
11018 none  ZM handlebar with 11088
11088 none  Z expander bolt
11146 none 
11475 none 
11502 none  decomp pull rod (spoke)
11503 $15.0 decomp thumb lever  grey plastic

11507 none 
11508 none 
11509 none 
11549 none  ZM bell with 11550
11550 none  Z bell top
11789 none  front brake inner wire 860
11800 none  rear brake inner wire 1660
11847 none  lever blade
11550 none 

Solex right inverted lever with cable wires loose  Solex right inverted lever with cable wires taut  Solex right inverted lever with cable wires taut, end view
Right control with wires loose, with wires taut, and end view.

The 1961-86 Solex right inverted brake lever also controls the throttle. Either squeeze the brake or twist the grip to close the throttle. A cam in the grip pushes that little trigger (center photo) which pulls the throttle wire. The single-ended throttle and brake wires are ordinary “universal” moped inner wires.

 
#   part#  price   2. Magura ’75-80 4600 V2,V3 
1   61398 $32.0 CEV 8040 chrome light switch
2   61397 $54.0 CEV 8177 chrome kill switch 

3   61395 $00.0 Magura left control assembly
4   61394 $00.0 Magura right control assembly
5   13365 $00.0 Magura #3 thumb lever
6   13400 $00.0 Magura #6 pivot bolt & nut
7   13500 $00.0 Magura #11 socket bolt
8   61365 $2.00 P5 cable pinch bolt
9   13309 $00.0 Magura #10 clamp bolt M6 
10 13317 $4.00 brake cable adjuster
11 00000 $2.00 brake light switch boot
12 61396 $15.0 CEV 9343 brake light switch
12 61396 $9.00 Domino 2218.20.04 substitute
13 13301 $00.0 Magura #1 left lever
14 13364 $00.0 Magura #2 right lever
15 00000 $00.0 Magura #12 left housing
16 13304 $00.0 Magura #13 right housing
17 00000 $00.0 Magura left grip 22mm
18 13315 $00.0 Magura right grip 24mm 
19 00000 $00.0 Magura #4 twist tube

 
#  Solex#  price   3. Domino ’86-05 3800
’86-88 MBK Solex 3800, ’99-05 Impex Solex 3800
see Domino 80’s Black Controls for parts, scroll to Type S

 

 

 


10. Front Brake

Solex Parts Figure 10 Front Brake Assembly
10. Front Brake Assembly

#   part#  price   name    remarks
2   60423 $20.0 brake bar assy 
3   13306 $00.0 front brake cable    see cables below
8   60070 none  brake shoe block says Sphinx (use bicycle)
12 60502 $5.00 brake support
15 61296 $15.0 brake pad assy  plain shiny new

 


11. Pedal Assembly

Solex Parts Figure 11 Pedal Assembly
11. Pedal Assembly

#   part#  price   name    remarks
4   60966 $10.0 chain 83+1 links  with master
5   60072 $2.00 master link  ordinary bicycle chain
6   61371 $5.00 cable stop with adj.  like bicycle but smaller
8   60465 $20.0 crank spindle 
10 60061 none  cotter pin assy 9.0 mm special wedge
12 60063 none  left pedal    M14-1.25 French thread
13 60064 none  right pedal M14-1.25 French thread
14 00000 $20.0 14b pedal set classic M14-1.25

 

 


12. Saddle

Solex Parts Figure 5 Carburetor and Gas Tank
12. Saddle Assembly

 

 


13. Luggage Carrier

Solex Parts Figure 13 Luggage Carrier
13. Luggage Carrier

#   part#  price   name    remarks
8   61379 $5.00 air pump hose, green, presta valve end

 

 


14. Front Wheel

Solex Parts 14 Front Wheel

14. Front Wheel

#  qty Solex# MB#  price   name    remarks
1   01 00000 00000 none  wheel 19″ Atom hub ’58-74
1   01 12683 61298 none  wheel 19″ Leleu hub ’75-86
2   01 10997 60554 none  rim band 19″

3   01 11179 60799 $12.0 tube 2.25-19 Sedona (fits 2.00-19)         
4   01 11003 60751 $46.0 tire 1.75-19 Hutchinson (2.0 actual)
5   28 41352 61797 $2.00 spoke nut 15J 0.55 pitch
6   28 00000 00000 none  spoke 15J 224 x 2.4 ’58-74 19″
6   28 13083 61358 $3.00 spoke 15J 220 x 2.4 ’75-86 19″
7   18 00000 00000 $2.00 balls 1/4″ (bag of 18) pre-’75
7   22 10404 17187 $2.00 balls 7/32″(bag of 22) ’75-86
8   01 00724 60058 none  axle set 3/8″-26 x 130
8   02 00000 00000 none  bearing cone 3/8″-26  
8   02 00000 00000 none  thin nut 3/8″-26 x 4
9   02 00591 60052 none  hub cap  
10 02 12120 61217 $1.00 outer washer
11 02 00862 60079 none  flange nut 3/8″-26 x 12 14hex
12 01 00000 61360 none  rim     no spokes  19″ 28 hole

After the take-over of VeloSolex by Motobecane in 1974,
the front hub changed from Atom to Leleu, in 1975.

The balls changed from 18 1/4″ to 22 7/32″,
so the outside of the cones became larger,
or the inside of the cup became smaller.

The front spoke changed from 224 to 220 mm.

 


15. Rear Wheel

Solex Parts 15 Rear Wheel
#  qty Solex# MB#  price   15. Rear Wheel
1   01 00000 00000 none  wheel 19″ Atom Ø83 hub ’66-74
1   01 13356 13356 none  wheel 19″ Leleu Ø80 hub ’75-86
2   01 10997 60554 none  rim band 19″
3   01 11179 60799 $12.0 tube 2.25-19 Sedona (fits 2.00-19)         
4   01 11003 60751 $46.0 tire 1.75-19 Hutchinson (2.0 actual)
5   28 41352 61797 $2.00 spoke nut 15J 0.55 pitch

6   28 13084 61359 $0.00 rear spoke 192 x 2.4 ’66-86 19″
7   01 13357 61405 none  brake plate Ø80 assy ’75-86
7   01 00000 00000 none  brake plate Ø83 assy ’66-74
8   01 80152 62598 $25.0 brake shoe set Ø80 ’75-on
8   01 00000 12355 none  brake shoe set Ø83 ’66-74
9   02 08612 62606 $2.00 brake shoe spring ’75-on
10 01 10759 60483 none  freewheel 16T
11 01 11737 60955 none  rear axle set 3/8″-26 ’75-on
11 01 00000 00000 none  rear axle set 3/8″-26 pre-’75
11 02 00000 00000 none  bearing cone 3/8″-26 
11 02 00000 00000 none  lock nut 3/8″-26 x 4 
12 18 00000 00000 $2.00 balls 1/4″ (bag of 18) pre-’75 
12 22 10404 17187 $2.00 balls 7/32″(bag of 22) ’75-86
13 02 12120 61217 $1.00 outer washer
14 02 00862 60079 none  nut 3/8″-26 14hex   
15 01 00000 61365 $2.00 cable pinch bolt P6c 
16 01 00000 61360 none  rim F & R  (no spokes)  19″ 28 hole

 

After the take-over of VeloSolex by Motobecane in 1974,
the rear hub changed from Atom to Leleu, in 1975.

The drum diameter changed from 83 to 80 mm,
so the brake shoes and brake plate also changed. 

The balls changed from 18 1/4″ to 22 7/32″,
so the
 outside of the cones became larger,
or the inside of the cup became smaller.

 

size  diameter (Jauge) thread  price    Originals

190  2.7-2.4 (15J-14J) 0.55   $3.00  #61359
19″ rear ’66-86 3300, 3800, 4600

198? 2.4-2.4 (14J-14J) 0.55   none 
19″ rear ’64-66 3300 (Ø70)

220  2.4-2.4 (14J-14J) 0.55  $3.00  #61358
19″ front ’75-86 3800-4600

224  2.4-2.4 (14J-14J) 0.55  none 
19″ front ’58-74 1400-3800

 

 

0 front  000 rear 000 years 00  models 00 rim  rear hub
224(225)  220(221)  1958-64  1400-2200  484 coaster
224(225)  198(199)  1964-66  3300-3300  484 70 drum
224(225)  190(191)  1966-74  3300-3800  484 83 Atom
220(221)  190(191)  1975-86  3800-4600  484 80 Leleu

spoke chart

 


16. Headlight


1. CEV 2143 ’75-76 Solex 4600 V2 (US, CA)
see Headlights for parts


2. Luxor 1710 ’77-80 Solex 4600 V3 (US)
see Headlights for parts

Solex Parts Figure 19a S 3800 Head & Tail Lights
3. Soubitez ’66-74+ Velosolex 3800
1   60204 none  motor cover bare
2   60205 none  HL lens 1986-on
2   61367 none  HL lens pre-1986 for 10mm screw-in bulb
3   60574 none  bulb 6V15w P26S 26mm flange bulb
3a 00000 none  flange for screw-in 17.3mm press-in flange
3b 14460 $2.00 6V headlight bulb E10 screw-in yellow
4   60767 $5.00 switch lever
5   60834 none  contact lever
6   60831 none  return spring
7   14311 none  bolt M4-0.75 x 12

 


17. Tail Light

Here are seven Solex tail lights from 1959 to 2008.

1. SEIMA Solex 3300 tail light
’59-66 Solex 1700, S2200, S3300

2. SEIMA 1971-72 Solex 3800 USA tail light by Luxor
’66-76 Velosolex S3800

3. Maly
’67-73? Velosolex S3800 (US), ’74-75 4600 V1 (US,CA)

4. “MB Hex” 1976-88 S 3800 MBK MB Hexagon tail light 1976-82 Solex 5000 MB Hexagon white
’76-88 Velosolex 3800 (black), ’76-82 Solex 5000 (white)

5. CEV 1975 Solex 4600 V2 tail light by CEV  
’75-76 Solex 4600 V2 (US,CA)
CEV 9350 see CEV Tail Lights for parts

6. ULO 1977-79 4600 V2,V3 tail light by U.L.O.  
’77-79 Solex 4600 V3 (US)
ULO 250 see ULO Tail Lights for parts

7. Soubitez 1999-05 Impex S 3800 2005-on Black'nRoll S 4800 Tail light by Soubitez  Solex Parts Figure 19a S 3800 Head & Tail Lights
’86-88 MBK S 3800, 99-05 Impex S 3800, 05-08 BlacknRoll S 4800
fig  part#  price   Soubitez
8   00000 none  tail light body
9   00000 none  tail light lens
10 00000 $2.00 brake bulb 6V10W base 15
11 00000 $2.00 tail bulb 6V4W  base 9
12 00000 none  tail light complete

 


18. Engine Gaurd and Muffler

Solex Parts 18 Engine Gaurd and Muffler
fig  MB#   price  18. Engine Guard and Muffler
4   61399 none  guard 4600 good-used
4   00000 none  guard 3800 no reflector mount

 


19. Cables

see Solex Cables 

 


20. Wiring

 

’64-75 Solex 3300, 3800 Wiring     courtesy of BrianSolex

Solex Parts Figure 20a 1962-73 S3800 USA Head light ground tab
Figure 20a. Head light ground tab
’64-66 S 3300, ’66-75 S 3800, ’67-72 S 3800 US

Solex Parts Figure 20 1973-74 S 3800 USA Lights Wiring
Figure 20. Lights wiring
’73-74 S 3800 US

Yellow – main power from stator to switch paddle (power for the lighting exits the stator via the serrated stud; there is no wire connection between the serrated stud and the switch. The switch paddle must contact the serrated stud when the switch lever is turned counter-clockwise)

Red – power from headlight switch paddle, through spring and bronze strip, to headlight.

Blue – power from bronze strip to tail light wire

Green – ground (wire from headlight to fuel pump screw)

*Note: the 1966-72 S 3800 USA (and the S 3300) is similar, but instead of a ground wire, there is a ground tab mounted on the front of the fuel pump. The tip of the bulb touches the tab.

 

Solex 4600
’75-79 Solex 4600 V2, V3 Wiring

 

Solex 3800 Impex
’99-05 Solex 3800 Impex Wiring

 


21. Solex 3800 Parts Lists

     

1. Solex 3800 Parts
2. Solex 3800 Parts (1977)
3. Solex 3800 Cable Parts (1975)