Myrons Mopeds

Contents:  1. Pinch Bolts (knarps)
Contents:  2. Ends, Adapters, and Elbows
Contents:  3. Adjusters (adjustable stops)
Contents:  4. Ferrules (cable stops) and End Caps
Contents:  5. Bulk conduit (housing) and inner wire

Contents:  6. Cloth cable restoration

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1.   P = Pinch Bolts

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                       (barrel pinch bolt length is without bolt)
o0P4  $2.00 000-03548 barrel pinch bolt Ø4  x  9   2.0 max wire
o0P5  $2.00 121-00416 barrel pinch bolt Ø5.5×8   2.0 max wire  new, for most throttles and some choke levers
0P6a  $7.00                  barrel pinch bolt Ø6 x 11  2.2 max wire  good used, Motobecane brakes original
0P6b  $6.00 000-00000 barrel pinch bolt Ø6  x  8   2.2 max wire  good used, Peugeot choke & throttle, use P6c
oP6c  $2.00 000-00000 barrel pinch bolt Ø5.5×10  2.5 max wire
o0P7  $2.00 000-03536 barrel pinch bolt Ø7  x  9   2.5 max wire
0P7a  $3.00 00-632876 barrel pinch bolt Ø7  x  9   2.5 max wire
0P7b  $4.00 000-00000 barrel pinch bolt Ø7  x 11  2.5 max wire  new, Vespa scooter gear shift original
0P7c  $8.00 000-00000 barrel pinch bolt Ø7  x 13  2.5 max wire  good used, Peugeot brakes original
o0P8  $2.00 000-49060 barrel pinch bolt Ø8  x  8   2.8 max wire  new, with plain bolt (slips and shreds easier)
0P8a  $4.00 00-49060R barrel pinch bolt Ø8  x  8   2.8 max wire  new, with bolt end rounded
0P8b  $5.00 620-28020 barrel pinch bolt Ø8  x 13  2.5 max wire
0P8c  $2.00 000-00000 barrel pinch bolt Ø8
0P8d  $2.00 000-00000 barrel pinch bolt Ø8
0P8e  $3.00 000-00000 barrel pinch bolt Ø8  x 12  4.0 max wire
0P8f    N/A   000000 M9 barrel pinch bolt Ø8  x 15  2.5 max wire  long enough for Domino or Magura levers
0P8g  $4.00 000-00000 barrel pinch bolt Ø8  x 15  2.5 max wire  long enough but no groove or lip
o0P9  $4.00 000-00000 barrel pinch bolt Ø9  x 9.5 3.0 max wire
oP10  $5.00 620-28000 barrel pinch bolt Ø9.5×16  2.5 max wire
oP20  $3.00 000-00000 odd shape pinch bolt Ø3.8 x Ø7.0 xxxxx Peugeot decomp, shiny identical repro
P20a  $5.00 000-00000 odd shape pinch bolt brass Ø4.3 x Ø7.1  Barnett remake, must grind 4.3 to 3.8
oP21  $12.0 000-00000 loop pinch bolt 6 pieces M7 11 hex xxxx good used, Vespa moped, arm has 11mm arch
oP22  $7.00 000-00000 loop pinch bolt 6 pieces M6 10 hex xxxx good used, 1974-91 Tomos, arm has 10mm hole
oP25  $4.00 000-00000 H60 Grimeca pinch bolt Ø9 w/7mm flats for most Italian brake cable wheel ends
P26a  $15.0 000-00000 clevis pinch bolt  xxxxxxxxxx   xxxxxxx  for Sachs, AMF & KTM clevis style brake arms
P26b  $10.0 000-00000 clevis pinch bolt  xxxxxxxxxx   xxxxxx
P26c  $4.00 000-00000 clevis adapter   xxxxxxxxxx   xxxxxxx
P26d  $13.0 000-00000 clevis pinch bolt  xxxxxxxxxx   xxxxxx    for Sachs, AMF & KTM clevis style brake arms
P27a  $2.00 000-00000 bicycle pinch bolt, Ø8 w/6mm flat sides   too small for Grimeca brake arms
P27b  $1.00 000-00000 cable wire end cap crimp on xxxxxxxxx   protects exposed braided cables
P27c  $0.50 000-00000 bicycle brake step ferrule xxxxxxxxxxxx  see ferrule F6

 

Many of the 8mm diameter pinch bolts (item P3c above) sold on the internet will slip if the bolt is not tightened with a pliers holding onto the round 8mm barrel. This is because the 5mm bolt does not have a dome shaped end. Myrons cuts a rounded dome in the 5mm pinch bolt. This makes it gently fold the wire into a curve when the bolt is tightened.

You pay more for a Myrons pinch bolt, but you will get a much greater benefit. Safety (it won’t pop off when you slam on the brakes), and ease of installation (don’t normally need a pliers to hold the round barrel). You can feel the cable bending as the bolt is tightened. That gentle bending is what makes it not slip. See pictures at left. The 5.5mm diameter pinch bolts (item P1 above) for throttles already have domes on their 3mm bolts. (cones actually). So they are designed to hold good, yet be small. Nonetheless, they often need to be soldered, in addition to the pinch bolt tightened as much as possible, in order to not slip.  

 

 

 

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2. E: Ends and Elbows   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

E1a  $2.00 25880  brake   cable end adapter ∅8.7 x  8.5         adapts an inline ∅6 to a sideways ∅8.7
E1b  $6.00 Sachs   start     cable end adapter ∅4∅6 x 13         adapts an inline ∅3 to a sideways ∅4∅6
E1c  $2.00 Barnett throttle cable end adapter ∅4.8 x 7.9         adapts an inline ∅3 to a sideways ∅4.8
E1d  $1.50 25349  throttle cable end adapter ∅6.0 x 7.0         adapts an inline ∅3 to a sideways ∅6.0
E1e  $1.50 ooooo   throttle cable end adapter ∅5.9 x 4.6         adapts an inline ∅3 to a sideways ∅5.9
E1f   $2.00 ooooo   brake   cable end adapter ∅7.0 x 9.8          adapts an inline ∅6 to a sideways ∅7.0
E1ff $2.00 ooooo   brake   cable end adapter ∅8.0 x 8.3 side-slot adapts inline ∅6 to a sideways ∅8.0
E1g  $2.00 ooooo   brake   cable end adapter ∅8.0 x 8.3 end-slot adapts inline ∅6 to a sideways ∅8.0
E1ff $2.00 ooooo   brake   cable end adapter ∅8.0 x 10 side-slot  adapts inline ∅6 to a sideways ∅8.0
E1g  $2.00 ooooo   brake   cable end adapter ∅8.0 x 10.3        adapts an inline ∅5 to a sideways ∅8.0
E1g  $2.00 ooooo   brake   cable end adapter ∅8.0 x 9.7          adapts an inline ∅5 to a sideways ∅8.0
E1h  $2.00 ooooo   brake   cable end adapter ∅8.0 x 9.0          adapts an inline ∅6 to a sideways ∅8.0
E1i   $2.00 ooooo   brake   cable end adapter ∅8.0 x 14.5        adapts an inline ∅5 to a sideways ∅8.0
E1j   $2.00 25063  throttle cable end adapter ∅4.0 x 7.4          adapts an inline ∅3 to a sideways ∅4.0
E1k  $2.00 25049  throttle cable end adapter ∅5.5 x 5.7          adapts an inline ∅3 to a sideways ∅5.5 
E1l   $2.00 25062  throttle cable end adapter ∅5.7 x 5.9          adapts an inline ∅3 to a sideways ∅5.7
E1m $2.00 23420  brake   cable end adapter ∅9.0 x 9.0          adapts an inline ∅6 to a sideways ∅9.0
E2a  $1.00 ooooo   threaded rod nut M6                                    many Asian brakes are “rod” type
E2b  $4.00 ooooo   threaded rod barrel                                     for a threaded rod at the end of a wire

 

Note that the bicycle gear wire “inline barrel” end is 4mm, too big to be a motorcycle throttle wire “inline barrel” 3mm, also known as “carb” end.

Note that the bicycle brake cable “barrel” 7mm end is too big for a motorcycle throttle end “barrel” 4 to 6mm.

 

 

 

E3    $6.00           M6x0.8 elbow 45 deg, no adjuster threads    Dellorto and others
E3x  $o.00           other elbows available, not listed         
E4    $2.00           in line oiler with attached cap                        for putting oil into the cable
E4a  use E5s         bicycle cable end “pear” type   D=3.9/6.0 L=8.0   comes with wire 1.6mm
E4b  use E5s         bicycle cable end “pear” type   D=3.9/6.0 L=9.0   comes with wire 1.6mm
E4c   N/A              bicycle cable end “barrel” type     D=7.0   L=7.0   comes with wire 1.6mm
E4d   N/A              bicycle cable end “inline barrel”    D=4.0   L=4.0   comes with wire 1.2mm
E4e   N/A              bicycle cable end “inline barrel”    D=4.0   L=3.0   comes with wire 1.2mm
E4f   use E5b         bicycle cable end “short barrel”    D=5.0   L=3.0   comes with wire 1.2mm

These bicycle cable ends are listed here to show how much different they are from motorcycle cable ends. A bicycle gear cable 4mm end could be ground down to become a motorcycle throttle cable 3mm end. A bicycle brake cable road type interchanges with a motorcycle pear or mushroom type. A bicycle brake MTB type 7mm end fits loosely into a 8 or 9mm motorcycle brake lever, but functions OK. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

E5a $0.50  000-ooooo cable end “short barrel” D=6.0 L=3.0  wire=1.7  for soldering to 1.6mm braided cable
E5b $0.50  ooo-ooooo cable end “short barrel” D=5.5 L=3.2  wire=1.7  for soldering to 1.6mm braided cable
E5b $0.50  620-25162 cable end “short barrel” D=6.3 L=3.3  wire=1.6  for soldering to 1.6mm braided cable
E5c   N/A    620-24187 cable end “ball” shape   D=4.6  xxxxx  wire=1.7  for soldering to 1.6mm braided cable
E5d $0.50  620-24162 cable end “ball” shape   D=5.4  xxxxx  wire=1.7  for soldering to 1.6mm braided cable
E5e $1.00  620-24062 cable end “ball” shape   D=6.3  xxxxx  wire=1.7  for soldering to 1.6mm braided cable
E5f  $1.00  620-25063 cable end “barrel” type  D=3.9 L=7.2  wire=1.6  for soldering to 1.6mm braided cable
E5g   N/A    000-ooooo cable end “barrel” type  D=4.9 L=7.4  wire=1.8  for soldering to 1.6mm braided cable
E5h   N/A    000-ooooo cable end “barrel” type  D=4.6 L=10.2wire=1.4  for soldering to 1.6mm braided cable
E5i  $1.00  620-25349 cable end “barrel” type  D=6.0 L=7.0  wire=1.3  for soldering to 1.2mm braided cable
E5j  $1.00  620-25580 cable end “barrel” type  D=9.5 L=9.5  wire=2.0   for soldering to 2.0mm braided cable
E5k $1.00  wp70-1012 cable end “inline barrel”D=3.0 L=5.0  wire=1.8  “inline barrel” also known as “carb” type
E5l     N/A   620-24762 cable end “inline barrel” D=3.2 L=3.5  wire=1.7  “inline barrel” also known as “carb” type
E5m$0.50  ooo-ooooo cable end “pear” type   3.1/5.2 L=7.8  wire=2.0  for soldering to 2.0mm braided cable
E5n $0.50  ooo-ooooo cable end “pear” type   3.8/6.0 L=6.6  wire=2.7   for soldering to 2.7mm braided cable
E5p $0.50  ooo-ooooo cable end “pear” type  4.0/6.3 L=10.1 wire=2.0  for soldering to 2.0mm braided cable
E5q $0.50  620-26298 cable end “pear” type  3.9/6.3 L=11.5 wire=2.3  for soldering to 2.0mm braided cable
E5s    N/A  620-26162 cable end “pear” type  3.3/5.6 L=8.1   wire=1.6  for soldering to 1.6mm braided cable
E5t $2.00  wp70-1003 cable end “barrel” type  D=8.0 L=9.0  wire=2.0  2-piece for soldering to 2.0mm cable

 

 

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3. A: Adjusters

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oA1  $6.00 219625 cable adjuster M5-0.75 with nut      fine, for Dellorto carb elbow
A1a  $3.00 219626 nut for cable adjuster M5-0.75         fine, for Dellorto carb elbow
A1b  $4.00 oooooo cable adjuster M5-0.80 with nut        standard, for Puch Bing
A1c  $5.00 023089 cable adjuster M5-0.90 with nut        coarse, for Motobecane
A1d  $2.00 oooooo cable adjuster M5-1.00 with nut        very coarse, not for any common moped
oA2  $2.00 oooooo cable adjuster M6-1.00 hex no slot        
A3a  $3.00 oooooo cable adjuster M6-1.00 round no slot   good used
A3b  $5.00 222592 cable adjuster M6-1.00 round slotted  original 1990’s Tomos dark grey
A3c  $6.00 021222 cable adjuster M6-1.00 star nut no slot original Motobecane
oA4  $5.00 oooooo cable adjuster M6-1.00 hex long used  Puch wheels and others
A5a  $5.00 oooooo cable adjuster M7-1.00 round slotted       
A5b  $4.00 oooooo cable adjuster M7-1.00 hex used              
oA6  $5.00 oooooo cable adjuster M8-1.25 round slotted       
A7a  $0.40 oooooo nut for adjuster M5-0.8               
A7b  $0.40 oooooo nut for adjuster  M6-1.0                 
A7c  $3.00 169227 thin adjuster nut M6-0.75 hex 7           
A7d  $2.50 o04172 thin adjuster nut M6-0.75 hex 9 Motobecane             
A7e  $2.00 o21157 plastic star nut M6-1.0 Motobecane         
oA8  $5.00 oooooo in-line cable adjuster                               for joining two 5 or 6mm sleeves
A9a  $6.00 oooooo Magura type adjuster short, good used
A9b  $6.00 oooooo Magura type adjuster long, good used
A9c  $7.00 oooooo Magura type adjuster short w/elbow     for Kreidler and others
A10  $4.00 o00189 cable adjuster M6-0.75 without nut for Motobecane carb
A11  $4.00 oooooo cable adjuster 1/4 – 24 aluminum             
A12  $7.50 oooooo cable adjuster M7-1.0 short w/nut     for Motobecane decomp
A13  $5.00 110437 cable adjuster M6-0.75  fine    for Dellorto, Bing, Gurtner, and Asian carbs

 

 

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4. F: Ferrules

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

F1x  step ferrule  $$.$$  od1  od2  id2  length part# 
F1x  step ferrule  $3.00  5.9  8.0  5.8  13.0   15581 000 for Motobecane rear brake
F1a  step ferrule  $3.00  5.9  8.0  5.4  10.0   43678 000 for Peugeot front brake
F1b  step ferrule  $2.00  6.0  9.0  6.5  14.0   00000 000 aluminum
F1c  step ferrule  $1.50  4.9  8.0  6.5  12.5   3514 0000 shiny new zinc-plated steel
F1sub substitute $0.00  0.0  0.0  0.0  00.0   00000 000 is A2 cable adjuster, see above
F2x  step ferrule  $2.00  4.0  7.0  5.5  11.0   16944 000 for Motobecane decomp
F3x  step ferrule  $0.50  4.0  7.0  5.5  10.0   00000 000 sub for F2
F3x  step ferrule  $0.50  4.0  7.0  5.5  10.0   00000 000 aluminum
F4a  step ferrule  $1.00  4.0  7.0  6.0  12.0   00000 000 aluminum
F4b  step ferrule  $2.00  4.5  7.7  5.8  16.7   00000 000 Barnett
F4c  step ferrule  $2.00  5.3  6.8  6.2  19.0   00000 000 Barnett
F5a  step ferrule  $2.00  5.9 11.9 10.4 15.4  00000 000 Barnett
F5b  step ferrule  $0.00  0.0  0.0  0.0  00.0   00000 000 miscellaneous
F5c  step ferrule  $0.50 bicycle brake universal

The above step ferrules all fit loosely over the cable conduit. The end cap type ferrules below fit tight on the conduit, or are crimped on by special pliers. The end caps are supposed to fit tight, for several reasons: For strength and cable performance, to help keep out dirt and water (thus increasing lifetime), and for easier servicing. Unlike the step ferrules, which are necessary, the end cap ferrules are not necessary. Sometimes conduits need to be cut and the end cap ferrule needs to be left off. The conduit will still function good without end caps, as long as the adjuster or other stop piece hole, usually 2.5mm, is not too big. Without a 6mm OD end cap ferrule, a 5mm conduit will eventually slip through an improper stop piece hole, like 4mm instead of 2.5mm. But as long as the holes in the end pieces are the proper size, the cable does not need end cap ferrules.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

F6a                    ferrule ID=4.8mm with flare, bicycle      $0.50  easy to install, just press on

F6a                    ferrule ID=4.5mm with flare                   $1.00  easy to install, just press on

F6b                    ferrule ID=4.8mm no flare                      $0.50  make flare with punch, then press on

F6b                    ferrule ID=5.1mm no flare, Barnett         $0.50  make flare with punch, then press on

F6c                    ferrule ID=4.8mm no flare, Barnett         $0.50  make flare with punch, then press on

F6d                    ferrule ID=4.0mm no flare Shimano SIS  $0.50  used and pre-crimped 

F6e                    ferrule ID=4.5mm no flare, Sachs           $0.50  make flare with punch, then press on

F6f  620-20100 ferrule ID=5.0mm no flare, aluminum     $0.50  make flare with punch, then press on

F6g                    ferrule ID=5.0mm with flare, chrome      $1.00  easy to install, just press on

F6h                    ferrule ID=5.1mm with flare, used          $1.00  original on Peugeot and MB

F6i                     ferrule ID=5.0mm with flare, Puch          $1.00  easy to install, just press on

F6j                     ferrule ID=5.5mm with flare                   $1.00  easy to install, just press on

F6k                    ferrule ID=6.0mm no flare, Barnett        $0.50  make flare with punch, then press on

F6m 620-20110 ferrule ID=5.5mm no flare, aluminum    $0.50  make flare with punch, then press on

F6n                    ferrule ID=6.1mm with flare, chrome       N/A  easy to install, just press on

F6o                    ferrule ID=7.1mm with flare, chrome      $1.00  bigger than most moped conduits

 

5. B: Bulk wire, conduit, and sleeve

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sometimes very long cables are needed, for long bikes, or very tall handlebars, or for other things that use mechanical control cables. For 1.2mm and 1.6mm thick inner wires, up to 8 feet, it is better to use bicycle wires. beacuse they already have end(s) and cost less. The same quality 5mm conduit (housing) for bicycles costs much less than for motorcycles, and comes in colors. For thicker or longer cables, the bulk motorcycle wire and black conduit is the only choice.

                 Cable inner wire from Motorcycle Parts Suppliers (Flanders):

B1   610-03080 cable wire by the foot  1.2mm 1 x 9 strand                             $0.80/ft  stiff braid (throttle)

                          cable wire   8.5 feet    1.2mm 1 x 9 strand stainless               use W10    

B2   610-03090 cable wire by the foot  1.2mm 7 x 7 strand                                   N/A    soft braid (throttle)

B3   610-03100 cable wire by the foot  1.6mm 1 x 9 strand                                   N/A    stiff braid (brake)

B4   610-03110 cable wire by the foot  1.6mm 7 x 7 strand                             $1.00/ft   soft braid (brake)

                          cable wire   9.0 feet    1.5mm 1 x 9 strand stainless               use W11  

B6   610-03120 cable wire by the foot  2.1mm 1 x 9 strand                             $1.30/ft  stiff braid (brake)

                 Conduit (housing) from Motorcycle Parts Suppliers (Flanders):

B7   610-03300 cable conduit per foot 5.0 x 2.3 black          for 1.2 or 1.6 wire   N/A use B13

B8   610-03305 cable conduit per foot 4.8 x 2.1 black,  nylon-lined, for 1.2 wire  N/A use B13 

B9   610-03310 cable conduit per foot 5.5 x 2.9 black             for 2.0 wire            N/A

B10 610-03315 cable conduit per foot 5.5 x 2.5 black,  nylon-lined, for 1.6 wire  N/A

B11 610-03320 cable conduit per foot 6.0 x 3.3 black             for 2.5 wire            $3.50/ft

B12 610-03325 cable conduit per foot 6.0 x 2.9 black,  nylon-lined,  for 2.0 wire   N/A

                 Conduit (housing) from Bicycle Parts Suppliers (J & B Importers)

B13   1460        cable conduit per foot  4.9 x 2.0 black,  nylon-lined, for 1.6 wire   $0.50/ft

B14   1461        cable conduit per foot  4.9 x 2.0 white,  nylon-lined, for 1.6 wire   $0.50/ft

B15                   cable conduit per foot  5.7 x 2.0 brown, nylon-lined, for 1.6 wire $0.50/ft  AMF style, from 1980’s

B16   14427      cable conduit per foot  4.8 x 2.0 yellow,                for 1.6 wire    $0.50/ft

B17  14426      cable conduit per foot  4.8 x 2.0 blue,                   for 1.6 wire     $0.50/ft

B18   14339      cable conduit per foot  5.0 x 1.9 lt. gray, nylon-lined, for 1.6 wire  $0.80/ft

                 Outer Sleeving from Industrial Suppliers

B20  1508T32  big outer sleeve 11 x 13mm black PVC, holds 3 -5mm cables    $1.00/ft   new and flexible, at last!

 

 

 

6. Cloth Cable Restoration

Since World War II, most cable conduit is coated with soft nylon or vinyl type plastic, to be flexible and waterproof. But before the 1950’s, most cable was coated in woven cotton cloth. The same is true with electrical wires. Early 1900’s electrical wires had cloth insulation, while late 1900’s wires had soft plastic.

Modern plastic coated cables will replace the older woven types, but they do not have the old fashioned appearance. None of the normal cable suppliers, bicycle or motorcycle, sell cloth coated cables.

One historic old bicycle with cloth covered cables was the 1939-1945 BSA Airborne Bicycle. In WWII British commandos would jump out of planes with these bicycles and then quietly ride miles undetected to the destination. 

In 2014 a bike mechanic in Canada was restoring a BSA Airborne Bicycle. He ordered cable parts from Myrons Mopeds. That inspired Shaun to find a way to make cloth cables. A few days later, walking down the sidewalk, Shaun saw a purple Lakers shoelace laying on the sidewalk. It was big enough to see that it was actually a hollow tube. At that moment Shaun realized that most shoelaces are hollow tubes, in different sizes, colors, and lengths. A hollow cloth tube made from a shoelace could cover a modern cable to make it look “vintage”.

In 2015 an medical engineer in Alabama was restoring a different BSA Airborne Bicycle. He ordered cable parts from Myrons Mopeds. Shaun mentioned the idea of using shoelaces to reproduce vintage cloth cables. A few months later that person made this detailed report on how he successfully made accurate replica cloth cables out of modern plastic ones.