C Wirings: Carabela, Cat Eye, CDI, Cimatti, Concord, Columbia

July 20, 2022

 

Carabela wiring: 

 

 

Cateye Turn Signals: Cateye turn signal kits, made in Japan, were an add-on accessory. They had a rechargeable 5.5 volt Ni-Cad battery pack, mounted with the front two lights on a chrome bar that clamped onto a moped handlebar. All of those original batteries died in the early 1990’s.

Cat Eye Turn Signals 1

Cat Eye BL700
Turn Signal Set p1

Cat Eye BL700 Turn Signal Set p2

Cat Eye BL700
Turn Signal Set p2

Cat Eye BL700 Turn Signal Set p3

Cat Eye BL700
Turn Signals p3

Cat Eye BL700 Turn Signals p4

Cat Eye BL700
Turn Signals p4

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CDI Wiring: 

 

 

 

 

Cimatti Wiring: Cimatti, with the Minarelli V1 engine,  has functionally the same as the “Minarelli Wiring”, except for the high-low beam headlight, the console light/horn switch, and the secret toggle switch under the headlight that grounds the blue wire when in the forward position. 

Cimatti City Bike Wiring

Cimatti City Bike Wiring
CEV 3-wire magneto, external ignition ground

 

Cimatti City Bike Wiring for model with large console light switch

Cimatti City Bike with large console light switch
CEV 3-wire magneto, external ignition ground

 

Concord (Fantic) Wiring: Concord mopeds with Minarelli V1 engines have “Minarelli Wiring”. The ignition source ground powers the brake light and must be grounded to run. There is a secret resistor inside the tail light. When that burns out the engine dies when the brakes are applied.

Concord Wiring, 1980 Freedom, Invader
CEV 3-wire magneto external ignition ground

 

Colombia Wiring: American-made Colombia mopeds can have two different frames, mono-tube and stamped sheet, and two different engines, Sachs 505 or Solo belt drive. But they all have the same Bosch 5-wire 90mm magneto, same wiring and electrical equipment, except for the headlight. Blue is ignition, green and green/black are brake light, yellow is head light, and grey is tail light.

Colombia Wiring Diagram for all US moped models
Sachs 505 or Solo engine, Bosch 5-wire magneto, internal ignition ground

  

Invisible Forces: Notice that on the Colombia (and others) the tail light gray wire goes straight from the generator/magneto to the light, and not through the light switch. You would think the tail light would then stay on all the time. The small tail light generating coil is close to the larger head light generating coil. Somehow the magnetic field changes around the head light coil when the light is switched on, and that energizes the nearby tail light coil. So the tail light only works when the head light is working. This prevents tail light burn out caused by overload from a burned out headlight. On other 70’s mopeds, when their head light burns out, the tail light gets super bright, and dies.

Furthermore on mopeds with a Bosch 90mm magneto with grey tail light wire, such as Puch, Batavus, Colombia, the headlight bulb is preferably a 6 volt 21 watt (#1129). If it’s a 12 volt 21 watt (#1156), the headlight won’t be as bright, and since it passes less current, the tail light won’t be as bright either. That’s weird. Besides that the tail light bulb needs to be a 6 volt 5 watt #63, or else it will be dim, especially at idle.

 

 


B Wirings: Batavus, battery, Benelli, Bianchi

July 20, 2022

 

Batavus Wiring (early): The 1976-78 models with Laura M48 engine have a 90mm Bosch 5-wire magneto on the right. Those have an internal ignition ground. None of the lights matter for the ignition to have spark. Head light (yellow), tail light (grey), and brake light (green) each have their own generator coils.

 

Batavus VA 76-78

Batavus VA, HS50, Mobat, Bronco, Starflite
without turn signals 1976-78, M48 engine
Bosch 5-wire magneto, internal ignition ground

 

Batavus VA, HS50 deluxe w/turn sigs 1976-78, M48 eng

Batavus VA, HS50, Mobat, Bronco, Starflite
deluxe w/turn signals 1976-78, M48 engine
Bosch 5-wire magneto, internal ignition ground

 

Batavus Wiring (late): The 1978-80 models with Laura M56 engine have a 80mm Bosch 3-wire magneto on the left side. Those have an external ignition ground. That blue/black wire powers the brake light. Consequently there is a special brake light resistor inside the light. While the early ULO 2-bulb tail light did not have a facility for holding a resistor, the later ULO 2-bulb tail light did. In fact there was not just a resistor, but a small circuit board with a nichrome-wire-coil resistor, and a diode. Otherwise the ignition looses spark if the blue/black becomes disconnected.  

Batavus Regency wiring diagram

Batavus Regency Wiring 1978-80, M56 engine
Bosch 3-wire magneto, external ignition ground

 

 

Batavus HS50 Canada model 

 

 

Battery Wires: For vintage Taiwan-made mopeds with 6 volt batteries, General, Lazer, Angel, Speed Bird, Indian, AMS, Clinton, Grycner, and others, getting the correct battery, 6N2-2A or 6N4B-2A is easier than getting the correct battery wires. In the 1980’s, new replacement batteries had vintage moped wires (double female bullet and male blade or bullet, male bullet). In the 1990’s and 2000’s the replacement battery wires changed, see illustration. In the 2010’s the wires changed again to “universal” (female bullet, female bullet plus an assortment of plug-in adapter wires, all bullet connectors). But the assortment does not contain enough to make vintage moped battery wires. To make those from the assortment, cutting, soldering, and shrink-wrapping is required.

Some vintage mopeds have had the bike’s wires adapted to accept a modern battery. Because of so many possible wires, since the 1990’s Myrons has always transferred the old battery wires onto the new battery, whenever the old wires were available. When unavailable, adapter wires were made, mostly from wire scraps. So many have been made, that almost no traces of the old style battery wires survive at Myrons Mopeds, out of hundreds of moped wire scraps.

Battery Wire Versions Taiwan 6V Mopeds

Battery Wire Versions, Taiwan 6V Mopeds

 

6 Volt Battery Chart 2008

6 Volt Battery Chart by Yuasa (2008)

 

Benelli Wiring: The Benelli G2 moped has a Dansi 3-wire 80mm magneto, with an external ignition ground on the green wire, ignition on the red wire, and lights on the black wire. The Benelli Dynamo mini motorcycle also has a Dansi magneto. More on Benelli soon …

Bianchi Wiring: Bianchi mopeds, US models with Morini MO1 engines, all have Dansi magneto type 101732. This magneto is essentially the same as the 101765 3-wire 2-coil, with external ignition ground on the green wire. Ground the green wire to get spark before suspecting anything else. 


A Wirings: AMF, AMS, Angel, Avanti

July 20, 2022

 

AMF Wiring: This wiring info is for the AMF Roadmaster models 110, 115, 120, 125 with McCullough rear friction drive engine, not the models 140, 141 with Minarelli V1 mid-engine and chain drive.

AMF 110,115,115KM

 

AMF 120, 125, 130

 

AMF stator

 

AMF 110 wiring

 

AMF CDI Ignition Upgrade

 

AMS Wiring: AMS Sierra 50 (step thru), Tahoe G1 (top tank) and Tahoe G2 (top tank 2 speed manual) have the same wiring as General 5 Star ST, except with a Taigene magneto, 3-wire with external ignition ground blue/black for battery charging, no ignition switch in the fork lock, and possibly minor differences in some connectors and grounds. Always ground the blue/black if there is no spark.  

The Taigene FP43 90mm 3-wire magneto is Bosch-compatible. Too bad it was prone to loose spark, even with the blue/black wire grounded and the points functioning. Some needed upgraded to an actual Bosch magneto.  

AMS & Angel Battery Versions: Angel/Speed Birds use a 6N2-2A small 6 volt battery, AMS uses a 6N4B-2A. Modern replacement batteries have different wires than the original ones did. See section “B” Battery Wires. 

AMS has a Taigene Magneto

AMS motor, Sachs 505/1D
3-wire Taigene magneto, Bosch compatible
blue, blue/black, yellow
Honda points & puller tool

 

AMS Wiring Illustrated Sachs 505 Taigene 3-wire external ignition ground

AMS wiring illustrated, Sachs 505/1D engine
Taigene 3-wire mag, external ignition ground

 

Angel: 1970’s Angel and Speed Bird mopeds, made in Taiwan by TYM, can have three different magnetos and two different wirings. These all have Ø90-three-M4-screw stator plates, and Ø90 (90mm ID) flywheel-rotors.

1) Bosch 0212-112-053, with brown (external ignition ground), yellow, black wires. The brown wire is the “tail” of the ignition source coil, and must always go to ground to have spark. It helps to power the headlight. So the headlight or headlight wires can cause the ignition to loose spark. 

2) Wtemco FHA ?????, with brown (external ignition ground), yellow, black wires. This whole magneto interchanges with Bosch 0212-112-053, but the internal coils are different. The flywheel, stator plate, points, condenser, the wire colors and wire plugs are all the same.

3) Wtemco FHA 11035, (internal ignition ground) with red, yellow, and black wires. This is the same as the other Wtemco magneto, except for the source coils (armatures). The headlight wiring is different from the others, in that the yellow does not get help from the ignition ground. This would make the headlight dimmer, but at the same time there is a separate output for battery charging, so the headlight gets brighter from that. The net effect is slightly dimmer.

Angel Wiring Diagram

Angel Wiring 1) and 2) Wtemco or Bosch 3-wire, external ignition ground

 

1) Bosch 0212-112-053
external ignition ground

 

3) Wtemco FHA-11035, internal ignition ground

 

 

 

 

 

Avanti Wiring: Early 2000’s Avanti mopeds have a 90mm 50W Seel magneto, made in India, with modern CDI electronic ignition. Mont and Autopower have 12VAC one-wire for all lights, with an electronic voltage (shunt) regulator. Kobra has 12VAC on 3 separate lighting wires, with no external regulator.

Avanti controls are copies of late 1980’s Italian made Domino controls, used on Trac, Tomos, Derbi. The switches are copies of late 1980’s Italian made CEV switches, that integrate (fit into) the mounts for the controls (brakes, start, and throttle). The switch buttons use the same white international icons, rather than words. 

The original switches for domestic (India) models did not have a handlebar mounted engine stop switch, reachable by the right thumb while holding handlebar grip. The older wiring diagram for Kobra shows this. Only the key on the dash would turn off the motor. But on at least the Supersport model, and maybe also on some Autopowers and Monts, they made the right side headlight high-low beam switch into a engine stop switch, in order to meet the US DOT requirement. This has been the source of confusion. (Turn on the high beam or it won’t start?)

These three wirings took 24 hours to interpret, colorize, re-draw and clean up. The originals were very rough.

Avanti Supersport (top tank) Wiring

Avanti Supersport (top tank) Wiring
Seel 4-wire CDI magneto

 

Avanti Autopower and Mont Wiring

Avanti Autopower and Avanti Mont Wiring
Garelli-clone engine, Seel 4-wire CDI magneto

 

Avanti Kobra 3G Wiring Diagram

Avanti Kobra 3G, Garelli 2-speed clone
Seel 6-wire CDI magneto

 

Avanti Autopower motor Seel 4-wire CDI magneto

Avanti Autopower motor
Seel 4-wire 50 watt CDI magneto, made in India


— Wiring Diagrams Menu — Select:

July 20, 2022

A  AMF, AMS, Angel, Avanti

B  Batavus, battery, Benelli, Bianchi

C  Cateye, Cimatti, Concord, Columbia

D  Daelim, Dansi, Demm, Derbi

E  Eagle

F  Foxi, Flying Dutchman

G  Garelli, General, Gilera

H  Harley Davidson, Hercules, Honda

I   Indian, Intramotor

J  Jawa, JC Penney

K  Kinetic, Korado, Kreidler, KTM, Kynast

L  Lazer

M Manet, Minarelli, Morini, Motobecane

M Moto Guzzi, Motron, Murray

N  Negrini, NVT

O  Odyssey

P  Pacer, Peugeot, Piaggio, Puch

R  Rizzato

S  Sachs, Sears, Solex,
S  Soni, Sparta, Suzuki

T  Tomos, Trac

U  Universal

V  Vespa

W Wards Riverside

Y  Yamaha

Z  Zanetti, Zundapp

 

 

Welcome to Myrons Wiring Diagrams. Mopeds have strange electrical wiring. Many have “secret” wires that must be grounded to run. Many have switches that normally would turn off something, but instead they turn on something (brake light or horn). Most of the wiring diagrams explain this, when it applies.

This “secret wire that must be grounded to run” system is only on most 1970’s and 1980’s US models. The reason for this craziness is that European mopeds do not need brake lights, but US ones do. So many kinds power the brake light from the back side of the ignition source coil.

One kind, Puch 77-later, 6-wire, powers the horn from the back side of the ignition source coil. So on a 77-on Puch, if you unplug the horn and push the horn button, the engine dies.

Besides loosing spark, older mopeds also often burn out light bulbs. That is because a magneto generator alone, without a battery or regulator, ranges from dim lights at idle, to bright at full speed. So your bulbs are either too dim, or else they burn out a lot.

Modern (1990-later) mopeds don’t have the old moped wiring problems. They run a more powerful magneto, 70-80 watts instead of 30-40. All the lights run off one wire, with a 12VAC voltage regulator. To keep the voltage below about 13V, the regulator passes any excess current into the frame where it’s mounted. So when most of the lights are off, the frame is being warmed a lttle. This “regulation by wasting” system is common on motorcycles but not automobiles.

Also nothing that the lights do ever matters to the ignition. Magneto ignitions after about 1993 are CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) instead of points. They’re also maintainence free and have easier starting.  

 


Italjet Cables

July 18, 2022

 

 

Italjet M5D brake cable

 

 

 

 


A39 Petcock

July 17, 2022

A39. 22x1 female spigot back long shaft

A39 22×1 female spigot back long shaft  N/A
←reserve  on↓ off→  made in Slovakia

Korado petcock

 

1999 Puch Korado blue

1996 Korado white

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


A39b. 22x1 female spigot back medium shaft

A39b 22×1 female spigot back medium shaft  N/A
←reserve  on↓ off→  made in Italy by OMG

 

 

 

 


B16 Petcock

July 15, 2022

B16. Inline (Remote) valve for Suzuki Shuttle

B16 Remote
valve  N/A

Links to photos of examples:

1982 Suzuki FA50 Shuttle original

This is for information, not for sale. None are available.

 

 

 

 


B15 Petcock

July 15, 2022

B15. Inline (Remote) valve for Trac

Remote gas valve with on-off-res Trac Clipper

B15 632747 $28
↑reserve ←off on↓
made in Korea

Links to photos of examples:

1983-85 Trac Hawk (Laura M56 engine w/pedals) original
1983-85 Trac Clipper (Laura M56 engine w/pedals) original
1984-89 Trac Image (Daelim DK50 engine no pedals) original
1984-88 Trac Escot (Daelim DK50 engine no pedals) original
1986-86 Trac Hawk (Daelim DP50 engine w/pedals) original
1987-89 Trac Sprint (Daelim DP50 engine w/pedals) original
1986-89 Trac Clipper (Daelim DP50 engine w/pedals) original

More than half of these Korean made NOS gas valves have cracks or are broken. These are ones that have been inspected and tested.

This petcock uses a D2c inner seal disk, a D2 with the holes widened. See below.


B13 Petcock

July 15, 2022

B13. Bolt-on valve for Angel

B13 Angel sheet-frame  N/A
6 mm holes spaced 36 mm c-c

Links to photos of examples:

1973-74 Honda PM50 Novio/Canguro sheet-frame moped
1973-74 Honda PM50 Novio/Canguro sheet-frame moped
PM50 gas valve 16950-122-000 offered at cmsnl.com
1977 Angel AP48 (Honda PM50 remake)
1978 Angel AP48 (Honda PM50 remake)

This side-mount bolt-on valve is scarce and not available for sale. Only these two leaking used ones exist at Myrons Mopeds. This petcock uses a D2 inner seal disk. See below.

Son of Honda PM50: The 1977-79 Angel AP48, made in Taiwan by TYM, is a remake of a 1973-74 Honda PM50, made in Belgium. The PM50 was not sold in the US. Some are called Novio and some are Canguro. The name Novio was also on PF50, a completely different bike and engine. 

 


B7 Petcock

July 15, 2022

B7. 12 push-in (clamp-on) spigot down

B7 12 push-in
spigot down  $10

Fits plastic tanks with 12.0 mm smooth hole.

Fits Di Blasi, but not when collapsed.

Available in bulk, 5 for $40, 10 for $60