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Bing Solo

December 11, 2020

4. B I N G S O L O
8 or 10 mm, clamp size 16 mm

Left is Columbia parts list 1 to 29. Right is Odyssey parts list 1 to 31.

fig price Odyssey# description
00 N/A 23 00 341 carburetor Bing 1/10/112
01 N/A 00 04 302 vinyl tubing 14 x 2 x 178
02 N/A 20 74 597 intake silencer
03 $22.0 25 00 326 air filter insert
04 N/A 00 66 132 intake silencer clamp
05 $15.0 05 10 658 float slotted type
06 $15.0 05 10 657 float needle for slotted
07 $8.00 05 10 115 float bowl
08 $4.00 05 10 218 bowl gasket
09 $10.0 05 10 132 main jet 58
10 $15.0 05 10 460 needle jet 2.12
11 $12.0 05 10 100 fuel line nipple M8 x 0.75
00 $20.0 00 00 000 inlet swivel type assy
12 $1.00 05 10 210 seal washer 8
13 $3.00 05 10 461 idle screw M5-0.8
14 $3.00 05 10 462 screw spring
15 none  05 10 463 choke plate
16 none  05 10 464 stud
17 none  05 10 465 safety washer
18 none  05 10 466 torsion spring
19 none  05 10 467 pivot screw
20 $33.0 05 10 468 throttle slide Ø14.5 “16” see photo above
21 none 05 10 469 jet needle 31mm 1-mark
22 $3.00 05 10 470 needle holder
23 $3.00 05 10 471 washer
24 $10.0 05 10 472 slide spring Ø11 x 36
25 $28.0 05 10 473 top cover M18 x 1.0, M6 x 0.75
26 $5.00 05 10 185 cable adjuster M6 x 0.75
27 $2.50 05 10 127 adjuster nut M6 x 0.75
00 $1.00 00 18 181 #28 screw M6 x 12 hex?
00 none 20 74 618 #29 carburetor cover
28 $4.00 05 10 189 #30 float hinge pin
29 $6.00 05 10 456 #31 clamp screw M5 x 15

Bing 1/10/112 for Solo/Colombia 40kmh (26mph)

Bing 1-8-102 with air box, for Solo 25kmh (16mph)

Bing 1/10/112 carb on Solo 255 motor

This carburetor is for low powered mopeds (mofas), case-reed-valve engines, that position the carburetor way down almost below the engine. The choke is remote, by cable. There is no primer (because you could not reach it if there was). Otherwise it is very close to the Kreidler Bing, with the same size Ø16 mount, Ø14.5 slide (but a different slot position), same float, float needle, float bowl, M5 idle screw, needle, needle jet, and M3.5 main jet (but different numbers).

Bing Kreidler

December 11, 2020

3. B I N G K R E I D L E R C A R B S
10 or 12mm clamp size 16mm

Kreidler Flory carb 1-10-126, identical to 1/12/260

Late 1970’s Kreidler Flory MP-9 and MP-19 mopeds are US models, 30mph (2.0hp), with Bing 1/12/260 (12mm) carbs. Other Flory models in Europe are 25kmh (17mph) with Bing 1/10/126 (10mm) carbs. The “bell” outer diameter is 54mm, same as the Solo Bing below.

# qty Kreidler# price description
1a 1 215.19.99a N/A carburetor 1/12/260 has metal-tip needle, no-slot float
1b 1 215.19.99b  N/A carburetor 1/12/268 has rubber-tip needle, slotted float
2a 1  07.15.08 $6.00 clamp screw M5 x 15 thin shank (clamp size 16)
3a 1  07.16.06    N/A float no slot   substitute slotted float & rubber needle
3b 1  07.16.06b $15.0 float with slot for rubber tip needle
4a 1  07.15.44   $39.0 float needle metal for no slot float
4b 1  07.15.44b $15.0 float needle rubber for slotted float
5 1  607.15.1  $4.00 hinge pin (Bing Puch 19)
6 1  07.15.05 $8.00 float bowl (Bing Puch 21)
7 1 07.15.32  $4.00 ring seal (Bing Puch 22)
8 1  07.16.20  $15.0 needle jet 2.17 (Bing Puch 2b)
9 1  07.15.41   none  3.5mm main jet #68
10 1  07.15.12  $18.0 needle 2-mark 36mm (Bing Puch 4a)
11 1  07.15.15 $12.0 fuel inlet vertical type M8x0.75
11 1  07.15.15s $20.0 fuel inlet swivel type Puch 24+25+26
12 1  07.15.21  $15.0 fuel strainer (Bing Puch 27)
13 2  07.15.25  $1.00 fuel inlet seal washer M8
14 1  07.15.14  $3.00 idle screw M5-0.8 (Bing Puch 16)
15 1  07.15.22  $3.00 idle screw spring (Bing Puch 17)
16 1  07.15.99  $35.0 slide Ø14.5 #10  says “10 B”
17 1  07.15.18 $3.00 clip for needle (Bing-Sachs 6)
18 1  07.15.55  $3.00 disk washer (Bing-Sachs 7)
19 1  07.15.23   N/A   slide spring Ø11 x 42
20 1  07.16.25 N/A   carb top cover    smaller than Puch
21 2  07.16.23 $1.50 carb top screw (Bing Puch 10)
22 1  07.16.12 N/A   choke rod 35mm (use 38mm Bing-Puch 33)
22 1  07.16.12s $4.00 choke rod substitute 38mm
23 1  07.16.13 N/A push button goes on top of choke rod, not needed
24 1  07.15.27 N/A   top gasket   smaller than Puch
25 1  07.15.20  $20.0 choke slide 14 wide, can grind down a Puch one

Bing 85 Sachs

December 11, 2020

2. B I N G S A C H S C A R B S
10 or 12mm clamp size 20mm

Sachs engines for US models:

internal pedals external pedals

Sachs 505/1B Sachs 504/1B 1-spd auto 25km/h (18mph)

Sachs 505/1A Sachs 504/1A 1-spd auto 40km/h (26mph)

Sachs 505/1D Sachs 504/1D 1-spd auto 45km/h (29mph)

Sachs 505/1D Sachs 508/2D 2-spd auto 45km/h (29mph)

Carburetor Jet Slide N.jet Needle Float Price Applications

85/10/101 50 2B 2.17 33mm no slot N/A ’76-79 504,505/1B

85/10/101A 50 2B 2.17 33mm slotted N/A ’79-85 504,505/1B

85/12/101 52 2B 2.17 36mm no slot N/A ’76-79 504,505/1A

85/12/101A 52 2B 2.17 36mm slotted N/A ’79-85 504,505/1A

85/12/104A 58 2 none none slotted N/A ’78-’83 504,505/1D

85/12/118 55 2 none none slotted N/A ’80-’85 504,505/1D

Note that the later 104A and 118 carbs have no jet needle.

# Sachs part # price description
1   0961.151.050 $8.00 4mm jet #50 for 85/10/101 & 101A
1   0961.151.052 $8.00 4mm jet #52 for 85/12/101 & 101A
1   0961.151.055   none 4mm jet #55 for 85/12/104A
1   0961.151.058 $8.00 4mm jet #58 for 85/12/118
2 0261.142.002 $12.0 needle jet 2.17 (not for 104A or 118)
2a 0247.143.000 $8.00 ring Ø3.2 Ø2.1 x 2.5 (not for 104A or 118)
3 0261.145.000 $18.0 fuel filter, good-used only
4 0261.146.000 $15.0 slide #2B Ø14.5 (not for 104A or 118)
4 0261.148.000  N/A   slide #2 Ø14.5 only for 104A & 118
5 0261.006.003 $22.0 needle 33mm for 85/10/101 or 101A
5 0261.006.004 $18.0 needle 36mm for 85/12/101 or 101A
6 0261.018.000 $3.00 clip for needle (not for 104A or 118)
7 0244.109.000 $3.00 washer/plate (not for 104A or 118)
8 0239.140.000 $10.0 spring Ø11 x 36mm
9 0250.162.000 $3.00 gasket carb top
10  0261.144.000 $15.0 carb top w/screws
11  0000.111.000 $1.50 screw carb top M4 Bing Puch 10
12 0000.111.000 $12.0 elbow carb M7 long thicker than Puch
12a  000.111.000 $15.0 elbow carb M7 short thicker than Puch
13  0000.111.000 $1.00 locknut M7 x 0.75
14  0000.111.000 $2.50 locknut M6 x 0.75
15  0000.111.000 $5.00 adjuster M6 x 0.75
15  0000.111.000 -N/A– (not trapped within the 2-ended cable)
12  0261.143.000 $15.0 12 + 13 + 14 + 15  long elbow assy
12a  000.111.000 $18.0 12a+13 + 14 + 15  short elbow assy
19 3640.022.002 $3.00 clamp bolt M5 x 20 thin shank
20 0962.065.000 $3.00 idle screw M5x0.8 Bing Puch 16
21 0962.090.000 $3.00 spring for idle screw Bing Puch 17
22  0000.111.000 $39.0 float needle metal for no-slot float
22a2661.027.000 $15.0 float needle rubber for slotted float
23 0000.111.000 $30.0 float only, good-used, no slot for metal tip needle
23  0281.125.000 $60.0 22 + 23 + 24 no-slot float+needle
23a 000.111.000 45-30 float only, slotted for rubber tip needle
23a0281.125.001 65-45 22a + 23a + 24 slotted float+needle
24 0000.111.000 $7.00 hinge pin float  bigger than Puch
25 0261.141.000 $10.0 float bowl
26 0240.213.001 $0.70 M4 x 12 slot head
27 0250.161.000 $13.0 gasket float orig. cork 1.5mm
27 0250.161.000 $8.00 gasket float thick Bing 1.5mm
27 0250.161.000 $4.00 gasket float thin 0.8mm leaks more
28  0261.125.000 $10.0 hose fitting/banjo Bing Puch 24
29 0242.110.000 $7.00 cap nut M8 x 0.75 for early versions
30 0962.013.000 $1.00 seal ring M8 (2) Bing Puch 26
31 0000.111.000 $3.00 primer
32 0000.111.000 $7.00 spring for primer
33 0000.111.000 $1.50 cotter pin for spring
  0281.109.000 $10.0 31 + 32 + 33

Upper is #12 cable pipe long
Lower is #12a cable pipe short

Left, non-slotted floats and metal tipped needle.
Right, slotted float and rubber tipped needle.

Some Sachs intake pipes have a cut-out for an o-ring.
It is the same as the air box o-ring #41, Ø17 x 1.5

40 0000.111.000  N/A   air box complete Ø16 for Ø12 carbs
40a0000.111.000 N/A air box complete Ø13 for Ø10 carbs
41 0250.160.101 $1.50 rubber o-ring 17 x 1.5
42  0225.007.000 $9-$14 air box front half
43  0239.138.000 $5.00 choke slide spring
44  0225.009.000 $20.0 choke plate/slide
45 0224.160.000 $3.00 mount plate metal
46  0240.211.002 $0.50 M5 x 10 slot screws takes two
46  0282.114.000 $29.0 41+42+43+44+45 front half assy
47  0225.008.005 N/A   air box rear Ø16 grey for Ø12 carbs
47a0225.008.000 $24.0 air box rear Ø13.5 black for Ø10 carbs
48  0225.010.100 $17.0 air filter, new
48  0225.010.100 $20.0 air filter, new with wider hole
49  0239.139.000 $9.0 wire clip air box

Air filter: The air filter 48 has a rubber spacer around it. This rubber becomes soft, making the clip looser. Then a bump or jolt causes the air box back half 47 to detach and soon fall off. That is why most are missing 47, 48, 49.

Air filter hole: The air filter has a sound baffle hole 14mm. For 25-30 mph models with 12 mm carbs the 14 mm hole must be widened to about 22mm, especially with the black air box with 13.5 mm inlet hole.

Sachs Choke Cable Trickery: Above, a Sachs Bing carburetor and air filter assembly. First the grey steel plate goes inside the white plastic box front half. Then the two M5x12 screws bolt it to the carburetor. Then the choke cable is fed through the box half, The choke cable spring is slid over the end of the choke cable. Then the white plastic choke plate, at far lower left, is attached to the small barrel end of the choke cable. This is done with the choke cable detached from the lever at the handlebar. When it’s all hooked up, squeezing the choke trigger moves the choke plate forward, blocking off the air. Releasing the choke trigger causes the spring to pull the choke plate back away, allowing full air in for normal running.

85/10/101(or A) 85/12/101(or A) 85/12/104 A
for 504-505 1B for 504-505 1A for 504-505 1D

85/10/101 (or A) 85/12/101 (or A) 85/12/104 A
“A” means slotted float and rubber tip needle.
No “A” means no-slot float and metal tip needle.

101 types channel the idle mixture under the slide. A deeper slide channel makes a richer idle mixture.

Fill in the idle channel with epoxy to make the idle mixture leaner. Grind it deeper to idle richer.

104 types have an idle tunnel with a separate fuel hole. A bigger idle hole makes a richer idle mixture.
But it is not removable and not easily serviced.

Remember that once the throttle slide is raised up (opened), the idle channel and (to a lesser degree) the jet needle have no more effect. At full throttle only the main jet matters, pretty much.

Left 4 have idle channels and jet needle holes.
Right has no idle channel and no needle hole.
The twin holes joined together are for the cable.

85/12/101 A 85/12/104 A
Left, the 101A needle jet unscrews.
Rt, 104A is molded-in under the jet.
Note the new and used float colors.

Slot Position angle is expressed as the time on a clock. All four slides above have the intake side at 12 o’clock and the engine side at 6 o’clock. Then from the bottom view, “Sachs A and B” is at 3 o’clock, “early Bing” is at 12 o’clock, “Solo” is at 12 o’clock, “Kreidler” is at 10 o’clock, and “Sachs C and D” is at 3 o’clock. Slides that have the same diameter and slot position can interchange, in most cases.

Bing Puch

December 11, 2020

1. B I N G P U C H C A R B S
12, 14, or 15mm clamp size 20mm

# part number price description notes

1a ..115.0091/48 $15.0 3.5mm jet #48  see Carb Specs Table
1b ..115.0091/50   none 3.5mm jet #50  see Carb Specs Table
1c ..115.0091/52 $5.00 3.5mm jet #52  see Carb Specs Table
1d ..115.0091/56 $11.0 3.5mm jet #56  see Carb Specs Table
1e ..115.0091/58 $10.0 3.5mm jet #58  see Carb Specs Table
1f  ..115.0091/64 $6.00 3.5mm jet #64  see Carb Specs Table
1g ..115.0091/68  none 3.5mm jet #68  see Carb Specs Table
2   ..115.0081/22 $8.00 needle jet 2.22  see Carb Specs Table
2a ..115.0081/12 $15.0 needle jet 2.12A see Carb Specs Table
2b ..115.0081/17 $15.0 needle jet 2.17 see Carb Specs Table
3   ..115.0151/24 $12.0 slide Ø16.5 #24 see Carb Specs Table
3a ..115.0151/51 $15.0 slide Ø16.5 #51 see Carb Specs Table
3b ..115.0151/11 N/A   slide Ø16.5 #11 see Carb Specs Table
4    364.415.5161 $18.0  jet needle 1-mark, 36mm, for 1/14/xxx
4a  330.115.0161 $18.0  jet needle 2-mark, 36mm, for 1/12/xxx
5   362.115.0131 $2.00  clip for needle
6   362.115.0141 $1.00 disc (washer), this is optional
7   362.215.0131 $7.00 spring throttle Ø13 x 58
8   349.115.0291 $3.00 gasket for top
9   349.115.0191 $7.00 carb top bare
9 + 13 + 33 xxxx $15.0 top assy long choke rod for 1/14/xxx
9 + 13 + 33a xxx $15.0 top assy short choke rod for 1/12/xxx
10 050.1535 xxx $1.50 screw M4 thin shank (2) stays with top
11 + 12 xxxxxxxx $4.00 adjuster w/nut M5-0.80 (in 2-end cable)
13 362.115.0641 $2.00 clip for choke rod, clicks when fully up
14a 349.115.0181 $14.0 elbow long M6-0.75, M5 for Maxi-types
14b 321.115.0181 $18.0 elbow short M6-0.75, M5 Magnum-types
15 26779 xxxxxx $2.50 lock nut thin M6 – 0.75
16 349.115.0111 $3.00 idle speed screw M5-0.8
17 349.115.0121 $3.00 spring idle Ø5,Ø7 x 9
18 362.215.0252 $15.0 float slotted, wt. 5.6g
18a early float xx  $16.0 float not slotted, Sears+Kreidler
19 362.115.0271 $4.00 hinge pin float
20   362.215.0262 $15.0 rubber tip for slotted float
20a early needle $39.0 metal tip for non-slotted float
21 362.115.0241 $8.00 float bowl used metal
22 362.115.0281 $4.00 gasket float bowl 45 x 41 x 1.5mm
24 320.115.0381 $10.0 banjo fuel inlet steel
25 320.115.0391 $7.00 banjo bolt M8 x 0.75
26 900.3702 xxx $1.00 seal washer M8 x 12 (2)
00 Puch24.25.26 $20.0 inlet assy, swivel type, 24,25,26
27 362.115.0372 $15.0 fuel filter thimble, clean and reuse
28 349.115.0131 $3.00 clamp bolt M6x20 thin shank
29 328.115.0362 $3.00 primer for cold starting, pushes float down
30 364.115.0331 $7.00 spring for primer
31 364.115.0341 $1.50 cottor pin for primer, original is crimped
32 349.115.0651 $9.00 slide choke
33 349.215.0631 $4.00 rod choke short 38mm for 1/12/xxx
33a 349.115.0631 $3.00 rod choke long 40mm for 1/14/xxx
34 349.115.0471 $7.00 choke rod extension for Maxi-types

Maxi-type frames are sheet metal: Puch Maxi, Sport, Newport, GN, …
Magnums are tube frames: Puch Cobra, Sears Free Spirit, JC Penney…

35 349.115.0070 $22.0 intake silencer for Maxi-type models
36 349.115.0731 $7.00 inlet tube damper pre-84 Maxi 1.5&2hp
37 900.1320 xxx $0.80 slot screw M6x20
37a 900.226 xxxx $0.30 nut M6
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40 321.115.2700 $55.0 silencer 2.0hp, no #44’s Magnum-types
40a 321.215.2700 $55.0 silencer 1.5, 1hp w/44’s Magnum-types
41 900.9886 xxx $2.00 hose clamp 1 inch
42 321.115.2711 $15.0 front silencer half
43 050.1540.2 x $22.0 air filter metal mesh
44 349.115.0741 $3.00 restrictor 1.5 & 1.0hp
45 321.115.0741 $5.00 sound damper pipe
46 321.115.0741 $8.00 mount clamp
47 26565   $0.80 hex bolt M5 x 16
48 321.315.0701 $15.0 rear silencer

Bing “Puch” choke rods
left long, right short

Bing “Puch” carb elbows
left long, right short

P U C H C A R B S P E C S T A B L E

Normally, carburetors appear first in the parts list. But Puch has over 30 versions. So they are here instead. Use this table to find your Puch carburetor’s original jet size and other settings, just by knowing the ID Number. Or use the applications and other clues to find what ID Number and settings that it originally had, if the original carb ID Number is not known or not trusted.

Bing 1/12/xxx Carburetors (12 mm)

00 intake 0000 mm 0000 slide needle jet
fins .0000.0000 mm 00 jet 0 needle 000 air box

000.000.0000 1/12/279 modern remake

349.215.4000 1/12/292 54 24 2 2.22 maxi
7 ∅12 circ ’75-76 Maxi-N, Maxi-S, Nostalgic 1.0 hp
7 ∅12 circ ’76-77 Rigid, Maxi, Maxi Sport, Newport 1.0 hp
7 ∅12 circ ’78 Maxi Luxe, Sport, Newport 1.0 hp

349.315.4000 1/12/293 60 24 2 2.22 maxi
7 ∅12 circ ’76-77 Rigid, Maxi, Maxi Sport, Newport 1.5 hp
7 ∅12 circ ’78-79 GN, ’78 Maxi, ’79 Maxi to 7705250 1.5 hp
7 ∅12 circ ’78 Maxi Luxe, Sport, Newport 1.0 hp

349.415.4000 1/12/294 54 24 2 2.22 maxi
7 ∅12 circ ’76-77 Rigid, Maxi, Maxi Sport, Newport 1.0 hp
7 ∅12 circ ’78-79 Maxi Luxe, Sport, Newport L 1.0 hp
7 ∅12 circ ’80-85 Maxi, Maxi Luxe 1.0 hp

349.715.7000 1/12/297A 50 51 2 2.12A mag rest.
9 ∅12 tall ’80-83 Magnum MkII, II, LTD 1.0 hp

000.000.0000 1/12/299 unknown

349.815.4000 1/12/300 48 11 2 2.12A maxi
7 ∅12 tall ’78-79 Sport MkII, ’79 Maxi II 1.0 hp
7 ∅12 tall ’80-85 Sport MkII, Newport II 1.0 hp

000.000.0000 1/12/302 50 ?? 2 2.22 mag rest.
7 ∅12 circ ’78-79 JC Penney Swinger 1.0 hp

349.115.7000 1/12/304 66 24 2 2.22 maxi
8 ∅12 circ ’78 Maxi Luxe, Sport, Newport 1.5 hp

349.215.7000 1/12/307 58 11 2 2.12A maxi
8 ∅12 tall ’78 Sport MkII 1.0 hp

349.215.7000 1/12/307 58 11 2 2.12A maxi
7 ∅12 circ ’80-84 Maxi from 7705251 1.5 hp
7 ∅12 circ ’85 Maxi Sport LS from 2421597 1.5-2.0 hp
7 ∅12 circ ’80-85 Maxi Luxe 1.0 hp
8 ∅12 circ ’85 Maxi 1.5-2.0 hp

349.615.7000 1/12/309 48 51 2 2.12A maxi
8 ∅12 circ ’80-85 Maxi Luxe 1.5 hp

349.615.7000 1/12/309 48 51 2 2.12A mag rest.
9 ∅12 tall ’80-83 Magnum MkII, II, LTD 1.5 hp

349.615.7000 1/12/310 48 51 2 2.12A maxi
8 ∅12 circ ’79 Maxi Luxe, Sport, Newport L 1.5 hp

349.315.8000 1/12/314 56 24 2 2.22 maxi
8 ∅14 tall ’79 Sport MkII, Maxi II 2.0 hp
8 ∅14 tall ’80-85 Sport MkII, Newport II 2.0 hp
8 ∅14 tall ’85-86 Maxi Sport LS 2 1.5-2.0 hp

349.415.8000 1/12/316 64 11 2 2.12A magnum
9 ∅14 circ ’78-79 Magnum XK 2.0 hp

349.515.8000 1/12/317 50 11 2 2.12A mag rest.
9 ∅12 circ ’78-79 Magnum XK 1.5 hp

349.615.8000 1/12/318 50 11 2 2.12A mag rest.
9 ∅12 circ ’78-79 Magnum XK 1.0 hp
9 ∅12 tall ’78-79 Magnum MkII 1.0 hp

349.815.7000 1/12/321 50 51 2 2.12A mag rest.
8 ∅12 tall ’79 Sport MkII, Maxi II 1.5 hp
7 ∅12 ???? ’78-79 JC Penney Pinto, Swinger 1.5 hp
8 ∅12 tall ’80-85 Sport MkII, Newport II 1.5 hp

349.715.8000 1/12/322 60 51 2 2.12A magnum
9 ∅14 tall ’78-79 Magnum MkII 2.0 hp
9 ∅14 tall ’80-83 Magnum MkII, II, LTD 2.0 hp

349.815.8000 1/12/323 48 11 2 2.12A mag rest.
9 ∅12 tall ’78-79 Magnum MkII 1.5 hp

000.000.0000 1/12/339 52
10 ∅12 ?? ’83-84 Dart 1.5 hp

000.000.0000 1/12/340 54
10 ∅12 ?? ’83-84 Dart 2.0 hp

Bing 18/12/xxx Carburetors (12 mm)
00 intake 0000 mm 0000 slide needle jet
fins .0000.0000 mm 00 jet 0 needle 000 air box

345.315.6000 18/12/106 52 13 2 2.26 maxi+
10 ∅12 3b ’84-85 Maxi Plus 1 and 2 1.5 hp

345.415.6000 18/12/107 54 13 2 2.26 maxi+
10 ∅12 3b ’84-85 Maxi Plus 1 2.0 hp

Bing 1/14/xxx Carburetors (14 mm)
00 intake 0000 mm 0000 slide needle jet
fins .0000.0000 mm 00 jet 0 needle 000 air box

349.415.5000 1/14/152 64 24 2 2.20 maxi
7 ∅14 sqr. ’75-76 Maxi-N, Maxi-S, Nostalgic 1.5-2.0 hp

000.000.0000 1/14/157 00 00 0 0.00 magnum
7 ∅14 sqr. ’78-79 JC Penney Swinger 2.0 hp

349.815.5000 1/14/160 64 24 1 2.22 maxi
7 ∅14 sqr. ’76-77 Rigid, Maxi, Maxi Sport, Newport 2.0 hp
7 ∅14 sqr. ’78-79 GN, ’78-79 Maxi to 7705425 2.0 hp

000.000.0000 1/14/163 68 11 2 2.12A magnum
7 ∅14 sqr. ’78 Sears Free Spirit 2.0 hp

349.115.6000 1/14/??? 68 51 2 2.12A magnum
7 ∅14 sqr. ’80-82 Series B 2.0 hp

000.000.0000 1/14/164 52 11 2 2.12A mag rest.
7 ∅6.5 sqr ’78 Sears Free Spirit 1.0 hp
7 ∅8.5 sqr ’78 Sears Free Spirit 1.5 hp

349.915.5000 1/14/??? 52 51 2 2.12A mag rest.
7 ∅8.5 sqr ’80-82 Series B 1.5 hp

000.000.0000 1/14/166 62 51 2 2.12A magnum
7 ∅14 sqr. ‘80-81 Murray 2.0 hp

349.815.6000 1/14/185 64 24 1 2.22 maxi late
7 ∅14 circ ’79-83 Maxi from 7705426 2.0 hp
7 ∅14 circ ’84-85 Maxi Sport LS to 2421596 2.0 hp

349.515.5500 1/14/196 68 24 2 2.17 magnum
8 ∅14 circ ’85-86 Cobra 1.5-2.0 hp
8 ∅14 tall ’85-86 Cobra 2 2.0 hp

349.315.6500 1/14/203 70 24 2 2.17 magnum
8 ∅14 tall ’85-86 Cobra 2 1.5 hp

Bing 1/15/xxx Carburetors (15 mm)
00 intake 0000 mm 0000 slide needle jet
fins .0000.0000 mm 00 jet 0 needle 000 air box

000.000.0000 1/15/46 82 24 1 2.17 hi-flow or none
0 000 000 modern replacement

Above is a list of 35 different Bing Puch carburetors. On the 33 Bing 1/xx/xxx carbs there are just 3 carb bodies, 12, 14 and 15 mm. But they can have different jets, needle jets, throttle slides, and throttle needles (different from float needle!). Use the chart above to configure (change the settings) a carburetor for a particular model, as long as it’s original and stock. For example, you have a 1977 Puch Maxi with no carburetor. You have a 1980 Murray carburetor that looks identical. From the chart they are both 14mm venturi, but the jet needs to be size 64 not 62, the slide #24 not 51, the needle 1 notch not 2, and the needle jet size 2.22 not 2.12A. Change those four things, and change the stamped on number from 1/14/166 to 1/14/160, and you will have the original specification carburetor. Or if you have a scrambled pile of carburetors and loose pieces, you can make any original configuration carburetor from the chart.

There are always some (sometimes lots of) little things that make life difficult. Old engines with compression and/or air leaks will need bigger than original jets. Old engines with clogged exhausts will need smaller than original jets. Engines with the original air box removed or modified will need bigger jets. Engines with performance exhausts will need bigger jets. Engines with big bore cylinder kits will need much bigger jets. This chart says what jet your bike had when it was brand new, not necessarily what jet is correct for it in it’s current state.

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Welcome. Included here are Bing carburetors used on mopeds, originally sold in the US from 1960 to 1990. This is only a small segment of Bing. There are also Bing carburetors on mopeds not originally sold in the US, or from earlier or later times, and on most German motorcycles and power equipment.

These carburetor categories are nick-named after the most popular US model or make. The Sears Allstate moped had the same carburetor and engine as 1950’s and 60’s Puch MS50 series and Tomos Colibri mopeds. The Puch Magnum X small motorcycle carburetor was the same as on many other 50cc motorcycles, especially German.

Bing moped carburetors, 10, 12, and 14mm, came on German (Sachs, Kreidler, Solo), Austrian (Puch, Kromag), and Slovakian (Jawa-Babetta, Manet-Puch) mopeds (US models). Besides the three venturi sizes, there are also different configurations and clamp mount sizes. Puch, Solo, and Kreidler Bings have round float bowls that screw on, and 3.5mm jets. Sachs Bings are square and “smashed up against a wall”, too close for any other carburetor to substitute, and have 4.0mm jets. Puch Bings have a 20mm ID clamp mount, and 20mm OD spigot mount for the air filter. Sachs Bings also have a 20mm clamp mount, and a two-bolt flange mount for the air filter and external choke. Solo and Kreidler Bings have a smaller 16mm clamp mount, and a large 53mm “bell” for the air filter to clamp to. Puch A-D Bings have a 23mm clamp mount.

The model number, stamped on, tells the size and settings. If it’s a Puch carb, use the Puch Carb Specs Table below to find what jet number and other parts your carburetor originally came with. Then use the Bing Jet list or graph to find what jet drill should pass through. Then use that drill to clean the old jet and restore it to normal size.

Carb types: Carburetors for each type 1 to 8 look and fit the same and share most of the same parts.

ID Numbers: These are just the known Bing ID numbers, mostly from USA-model mopeds. There are many more not listed here. ID numbers from different types can be similar, a source of confusion.

Nick Names: The names are from the most common 1970’s US-model moped that carburetor type is used on. Some of the nick names might be inappropriate, or downright goofy, for other places and times. Nick names are necessary because many ID numbers do not tell the type. For example, a 1/12/315 is a “Bing 1 Jawa” type, but a 1/12/314 is a “Bing 1 Puch” type, completely different.

Bing Carb Types – Specs and Apps

1. Bing “Puch” clamp 20, slide 16.5 (9 o’clock slot), jet 3.5, needle 36
0 carb ID # specifications on years version make models
0  size ID # jet slide n. n.jet
01/12/279   0 00 0 0.00 modern remake
01/12/292 54 24 2 2.22 1977-78 1.0hp Puch GN, Maxi, Sport, Newport
01/12/293 60 24 2 2.22 1977-78 1.5hp Puch GN, Maxi, Sport, Newport
01/12/293 60 24 2 2.22  1978-78 2.0hp Puch Maxi Luxe, Sport, Newport
01/12/294 52 24 2 2.22 1977-78 1.0hp Puch GN, Maxi, Sport, Newport
01/12/294 52 24 2 2.22  1979-80 1.0hp Puch GN, Maxi, Sport, Newport
01/12/297A 52 51 2 2.12A 1980-80 1.0hp Puch Magnum II, Magnum MkII
01/12/299 00 ?? 2 2.22 1978-79 0.0hp JC Penney Swinger 1, 2?, Pinto 1?, 2?
01/12/300   48 11 2 2.12A 1978-80 1.0hp Puch Sport MkII, New. II, Maxi II
01/12/302 50 ?? 2 2.22 1978-79 1.0hp JC Penney Swinger 1, 2?, Pinto 1?, 2?
01/12/304   66 24 2 2.22 1978-78 1.5hp Puch Maxi Luxe, Sport, Newport
01/12/305  00 00 0 0.00 1978-79 1.5hp JC Penney Swinger 1?, 2?, Pinto 1?, 2?
01/12/307   58 11 2 2.12A 1978-78 2.0hp Puch 1978 Sport MkII
01/12/307   58 24 2 2.22 1979-80 2.0hp Puch ’79-80 Maxi Luxe, Sport, Newport
01/12/309   48 51 2 2.12A 1980-80 1.5hp Puch Magnum II,Magnum MkII,Maxi Luxe
01/12/310   48 51 2 2.12A 1979-79 1.5hp Puch Maxi Luxe, Sport, Newport
01/12/314   56 24 2 2.22 1979-80 2.0hp Puch Maxi II, Sport MkII, New. II
01/12/316   64 11 2 2.12A 1978-79 2.0hp Puch Magnum XK
01/12/317   50 11 2 2.12A 1978-79 1.5hp Puch Magnum XK
01/12/318   50 11 2 2.12A 1978-79 1.0hp Puch Magnum XK, Magnum MkII
01/12/322   60 51 2 2.12A 1978-80 2.0hp Puch Magnum II, Magnum MkII
01/12/323   48 11 2 2.12A 1978-79 1.5hp Puch Magnum MkII
01/14/152   64 24 2 2.20 1976-76 2.0hp Puch N, S, Nostalgic
01/14/157 00 00 0 0.00 1978-79 2.0hp JC Penney Swinger 1?, 2, Pinto 1?, 2?
01/14/160   64 24 1 2.22 1977-79 2.0hp Puch GN, Maxi
01/14/163   68 11 2 2.12A 1978-78 2.0hp Sears Free Spirit, 1980 Murray 2.0hp
01/14/164 52 11 2 2.12A 1978   1, 1.5hp  Sears Free Spirit
01/14/1??   52 51 2 2.12A 1981-82 1.5hp Puch Series B
01/14/166 62  51 2 2.12A 1980-81 2.0hp Murray ??
01/14/1??    68  51 2 2.12A 1981-82 2.0hp Puch Series B
01/14/185 64 24 1 2.22 1980-85 2.0hp Puch Maxi, Sport LS
01/14/196 68 24 2 2.17– 1984-86 2.0hp Puch Cobra 1, Cobra 2
01/14/203   70 24 2 2.17– 1984-86 1.5hp Puch Cobra 2
01/15/46 82 00 02.17 modern replacement

2. Bing Type 85 clamp 20, slide 14.5 (9 o’clock slot), jet 4.0, needle 36(12) or 33(10)
0 carb ID # specifications on years version make models
0 size ID # jet slide n. n.jet
85/10/101 A50 2B 0 2.17 1976-79 1.0hp Sachs engines 504/1B, 505/1B
85/10/101A 50 2B 0 2.17 1979-85 1.0hp Sachs engines 504/1B, 505/1B
85/12/101 A52 2B 0 2.17 1976-79 1.5hp Sachs engines 504/1A, 505/1A
85/12/101A 52 2B 0 2.17 1979-85 1.5hp Sachs engines 504/1A, 505/1A
85/12/104A 58 02 none 1978-79 2.0hp Sachs engines 504/1D, 505/1D
85/12/118 A55 02 none 1980-85 2.0hp Sachs engines 504/1D, 505/1D

3. Bing “Kreidler” clamp 16, slide 14.5 (2 o’clock slot), jet 3.5, needle 36
01/10/126 68 10 2 2.17 1976-78 2.0hp Kreidler
01/12/260 68 10 2 2.17 1976-78 2.0hp Kreidler Flory
01/12/268 68 10 2 2.17 1979-80 2.0hp Kreidler Flory

4. Bing “Solo” clamp 16, slide 14.5 (12 o’clock slot), jet 3.5, needle 31(10) or 33(12)
01/08/102 58 16 1 2.12 1978 -80 1.5hp Solo engine
01/10/112 58 16 1 2.12 1978-80 1.5hp Solo engine on Columbia Open Road

5. Bing “Jawa”  flange, slide 14.5 (12 o’clock slot), early jet, needle 31(10) or 33(12)
01/8.5/168  62 32
01/10/???   62 32
01/12/167   62 24 2 0.00 1979-83 1.7kW Jawa Supreme 2 & 3, 207-392 & 394
01/12/168   60 24 2 0.00 1960’s xxxxxx  Sachs 50/2 engine
01/12/169   66 24 2 0.00
01/12/315 62 24
01/12/325

6. Bing SSE “Allstate” flange, slide 14.5 (12 o’clock slot), early jet, needle 31?
SSE – 12 50 00 0 0.00 50’s 60’s euro Puch MS50, MV50, JLO
SSE – 12 62 00 0 0.00 1954-68 xxxx Sears-Puch Allstate Mo-Ped

7a. Bing Type 15 clamp 23, slide 16.5 (11 o’clock slot), jet 4.0, needle 36
Type 15 is same as Type 18 except reversed left to right, and 15 has a intake bell Ø55.
15/12/100 52 13 2 2.26 unknown app
15/15/102 58 13 2 2.26 unknown app

7b. Bing Type 17 and 18  clamp 23, slide 16.5 (11 o’clock slot), jet 4.0, needle 36
Type 17 is same as Type 18 except reversed left to right.
17/15/1103 68  13 2 2.15? 1988-93? euro  Piaggio-Puch Supermaxi LG1, LG2
18/12/206 52 13 2 2.26 1984-86 1.5hp Puch Austro Daimler (Maxi Plus)
18/12/207 54 13 2 2.26 1984-86 2.0hp Puch Austro Daimler (Maxi Plus)
18/14/104 52 13 2 2.26 1992-99? euro Zundapp
18/14/180 52 13 2 2.26  1995-96 2.0hp  Manet-Puch Korado

8. Bing “Magnum X” clamp 23, slide 18.5 (9 o’clock slot), jet 3.5, needle 40
Like Bing “Kreidler”, but everything is bigger, except the float and float bowl.
01/17/89 84 11 1 2.20 unknown app
01/17/169 84 02 1 2.20 1978-79 3.5hp Puch Magnum X

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History

The name Derbi is from Derivats de Bicicletes (derivatives of bicycles).

From Wikipedia: Derbi’s origins began with a little bicycle workshop in the village of Mollet, Spain near Barcelona, founded in 1922 by Simeó Rabasa i Singla. The focus remained the repair and hire of bicycles until May 1944 when Rabasa formed a limited liability company named Bicicletas Rabasa with the aim of moving into manufacturing bicycles. The venture proved very successful and in 1946, supported by its profits, work began on a motorized version. More moped than motorcycle, this first model, the 48cc SRS included plunger rear suspension, and a motorcycle type gas tank and exhaust system. The SRS proved so successful it prompted a change in the company’s direction, and on November 7, 1950, the company changed its name to Nacional Motor SA. Just prior to this, at that summer’s Barcelona Trade Fair, the company unveiled its first real motorcycle, the Derbi 250.

1985 GP80 136mph

50cc Road Racing

Derbi successfully competed in Grand Prix motorcycle racing, winning 50cc world championships in 1969, 1970 and 1972. When the 50cc class was increased to an 80cc displacement in 1984, Derbi would claim four consecutive world championships between 1986 and 1989, before the class was discontinued in Grand Prix competition. The firm also experienced racing success in 125cc Grand Prix competitions, winning world championships in 1971, 1972, 1988, 2008 and 2010. The Derbi RSA 125 earned 405 points in the constructor’s championship in the 125cc class. The 405 points in 2010 are second only to Aprilia which earned 410 points in 2007.

Unlike Ossa, Bultaco, and Montesa, Derbi successfully met the challenges that followed the Spanish transition to democracy and Spain’s entry into the European Community. Simeó Rabasa i Singla died in 1988 but the company remained independent until 2001, when it was bought out by the Piaggio group.

1978 Derbi SLE ad

Derbi parts on 1970’s mopeds were mostly made in Spain. The Arbeo carburetor is a re-make of an Italian Dellorto. The Walker speedometer is a remake of a German VDO. The Motoplat magneto is made in Spain. Everything else is made in Spain by Derbi, except the lighting equipment is made in Italy by CEV Pagani. The reason was Spain’s high import tariffs and socialist economy. On late 80’s models there were more non-Spanish parts. The controls were Italian-made by Domino, and the magneto was Italian CEV. Gradually Spain’s trade practices became more like the rest of Europe.

Derbi lights: European models had Rinder headlights, square with angled sides, like the gold 1978 SLE on the right. US models had round CEV headlights because they were DOT approved. Euro versions had smaller tail lights and no brake light, while for-sale-in-US bikes had larger CEV 9417.2 tail lights that shine to the sides with brake light and side reflectors.

Nunca debera pedalear: “Never had to pedal” was the slogan in this Spanish ad. The bottom says “vane summit 3492 m (11,350 ft) the highest road in Europe”. Derbi was always setting records. In 1980 A Derbi SLE went around the world in 76 days. Derbi mopeds also crossed the Sahara and won world-class 24-hour competitions. The Derbi Variant was proven to be the world’s best moped in performance and capability.

Derbi Models

December 9, 2020

Models with Non-Reed Engine

N1. ’76-82 Derbi Variant SL
N2. ’78-82 Derbi Variant SLE
N3. ’76-82 Derbi Variant TT
N4. ’78-79 Derbi Laguna

N5. ’80-82 Derbi Sport Laguna
N6. ’78-82 Derbi C5 Diablo

Models with Pyramid Reed Engine

P1. ’83-85 Derbi Variant SL
P2. ’83-84 Derbi Variant SLE
P3. ’83-84 Derbi Variant SLE-E

P4. ’83-87 Derbi RD50
P5. ’83-84 Derbi Scoot 50, Scoot 80

Models with Flat Reed Engine

F1. ’85-86 Derbi Variant SL
F2. ’84-86 Derbi Variant SLE
F3. ’84-85 Derbi Variant SLE-C
F4. ’85-86 Derbi Variant SLE-X

F5. ’87-89 Derbi Variant Sport
F6. ’86-89 Derbi DS50

1976 N1 ♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SL spoke wheels
1976 N3 ♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant TT spoke wheels

1977 N1 ♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SL spoke wheels
1977 N3 ♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant TT spoke wheels

1. 1977 Derbi flyer, 2. 1978 C5 Diablo specs

Derbi is the most heavy-duty moped, with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 450 lbs. The SL was 123 lbs, and SLE was 125 lbs, so the rider (with passenger and cargo) can weigh 325 lbs.

1978 N1 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SL spoke wheels
1978 N2 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SLE gold 5-stars
1978 N3 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant TT spoke wheels
1978 N4 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 20x30T Laguna silver 5-stars
1978 N6 ♦♦ 2.50-21 2.75-18 20x42T C5 Diablo spoke wheels

1979 N1 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SL spoke wheels
1979 N2 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SLE gold 5-stars
1979 N3 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant TT spoke wheels
1979 N4 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 20x30T Laguna silver 5-stars
1979 N6 ♦♦ 2.50-21 2.75-18 20x42T C5 Diablo spoke wheels

1, 2, 3, 4. 1980 Derbi flyer

1980 N1 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SL spoke wheels
1980 N2 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SLE gold 5-stars
1980 N3 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant TT spoke wheels
1980 N4 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 20x30T Laguna silver 7-stars
1980 N6 ♦♦ 2.50-21 2.75-18 20x42T C5 Diablo spoke wheels

1981 N1 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SL spoke wheels
1981 N2 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SLE gold 5-stars
1981 N3 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant TT spoke wheels
1981 N4 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 20x30T Laguna silver 7-stars
1981 N6 ♦♦ 2.50-21 2.75-18 20x42T C5 Diablo spoke wheels

1982 N1 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SL spoke wheels
1982 N2 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SLE gold 5-stars
1982 N3 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant TT spoke wheels
1982 N4 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 20x30T Laguna silver 7-stars
1982 N6 ♦♦ 2.50-21 2.75-18 20x42T C5 Diablo spoke wheels

1. 1982 Derbi electric start debut
2. 1983 Derbi SL in War Games movie
3. 1983 Derbi flyer side 2

The movie “War Games” came out in May 1983. It featured a 1983 Derbi SL white. The flyer says “60th anniversary 1922-1982”.

1983 P1 ◊♦♦ 2.50-16 2.50-16 19x30T Variant SL spoke wheels
1983 P2 ♦♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SLE gold 7-stars
1983 P3 ♦♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SLE-E gold 7-s
1983 P5 ♦♦♦ 2.50-21 2.75-18 20x42T RD50 spoke wheels
1983 P6 ♦♦♦ 3.00-10 3.00-10 00x00T Scoot 50 .
1983 P6 ♦♦♦ 3.00-10 3.00-10 00x00T Scoot 50-E .
1983 P6 ♦♦♦ 3.50-10 3.50-10 00x00T Scoot 80-E .

1. 1983 Derbi news letter 1984
2. 1984 Derbi models, 3. 1984 Derbi specs

The 1983-86’s have these subtle improvements: Crankcase 3-petal pyramid reed valve for more torque. 90 degree throttle cable, not “straight out” (longer wire). Black aluminum brake levers not black plastic. Front sprocket sticks out more, nut hits earlier left cover. The cast aluminum swing arm was upgraded to box steel. The center panel choke button is 2 inches farther back.

The 1983 SLE-E (electric) had electric start. The sticker on the side of the frame was “Variant Botton Rojo”

There never was a parts catalog made for the 1983-1986 Derbi mopeds. There were only addenda or updates to the 1976-1982 parts catalog, in the form of loose sheets of paper.

1984 P1 ◊♦♦ 2.50-16 2.50-16 19x30T Variant SL spoke wheels
1984 P2 ♦♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SLE gold 7-stars
1984 F2 ♦♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 13x35T Variant SLE gold 7-stars
1984 P3 ♦♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 19x30T Variant SLE-E gold 7-stars
1984 F3 ♦♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 13x35T Variant SLE-C gold 7-stars
1984 P5 ♦♦♦ 2.50-21 2.75-18 20x42T RD50 spoke wheels
1984 P6 ♦◊♦ 3.00-10 3.00-10 00x00T Scoot 50-E .
1984 P6 ♦◊♦ 3.50-10 3.50-10 00x00T Scoot 80-E .

The Scoot 50 and Scoot 80 had a de-restricted pyramid-reed moped engine, but without pedals. Notice how much thicker the front exhaust header pipe is. These scooters went 40 to 55 mph.

The SLE-C (commercial) had a solo seat to allow a cargo rack. It was for business, like pizza delivery.

1. 1984 Derbi SL
2. 1984 RD50
3. 1984 flyer side 2

1985 P1 ♦◊ 2.50-16 2.50-16 19x20T Variant SL spoke wheels
1985 F1 ◊♦♦ 2.50-16 2.50-16 19x30T Variant SL spoke wheels
1985 F2 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 13x35T Variant SLE gold 7-stars
1985 F3 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 13x35T Variant SLE-C gold 7-stars
1985 F4 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 13x35T Variant SLE-X 7-stars
1985 P5 ♦♦ 2.50-21 2.75-18 20x42T RD50 spoke wheels

The 1985 SLE and SLE-X are the same except for the controls, cables, switches, and wiring. SLE-X has Domino integrated controls and switches. SLE has Derbi and Ideale controls with separate switches. They look 99% the same.

1. 1985 Derbi SLE-X
2. Derbi 1987 DS50 scooter with pedals

The DS50 floorboards fold up for pedaling. The pedals disconnect for motoring.

1986 F1 ◊♦♦ 2.50-16 2.50-16 19x30T Variant SL spoke wheels
1986 F4 ♦♦ 2.50-17 2.50-17 13x35T Variant SLE-X 7-stars
1986 F6 ◊♦ 3.00-10 3.00-10 17x34T DS50
1986 P5 ♦♦ 2.50-21 2.75-18 20x42T RD50 spoke wheels

1987 F5 ◊♦ 2.75-16 2.75-16 13x35T Variant Sport 4-stars
1987 F6 ◊♦ 3.00-10 3.00-10 17x34T DS50
1987 P5 ♦♦ 2.50-21 2.75-18 20x42T RD50 spoke wheels

The 1987-89’s have these subtle improvements: Many things are different that appear to be the same. Flat 2-petal case reed valve. Scanimet” all aluminum cylinder. Reverse rotation for better induction, so it has an extra shaft. Both crankshaft nuts are left thread. Old ones are both right. Domino controls with integrated CEV switches, different cables. CEV square speedo and square headlight with hi/lo, not round. New frame – engine swings with rear wheel, takes bumps better. Improved variator with wider range, more torque. Voltage regulator and stronger magneto, brighter lights. Top speed 43 mph! with intake & variator restrictors removed.

1. 1988 Marina Mobili (MMI) flyer with ’88 DS50
2. 1988 Derbi Variant Sport
3. 1989 Derbi DS50 fold-out poster

1988 F5 ♦♦ 2.75-16 2.75-16 13x35T Variant Sport 4-stars
1988 F6 ♦♦ 3.00-10 3.00-10 17x34T DS50

1989 F5 ♦♦ 2.75-16 2.75-16 13x35T Variant Sport 4-stars
1989 F6 ♦♦ 3.00-10 3.00-10 17x34T DS50

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History

Welcome Vespa scooters and mopeds were made in Italy by Piaggio. Vespa is a division of Piaggio, like Chevrolet is a division of General Motors. In the USA the bikes were branded as “Vespa” but in most countries they were called “Piaggio”. The brand name Vespa was used up to the 1980’s.

Scooters and Mopeds: Piaggio made scooters from 1947 to present, and mopeds from 1967-2006. Only mopeds are covered here. Mopeds have a front engine and large thin tires. Scooters have a rear engine and small wide tires.

2016 Piaggio P.1HH unmanned aircraft

History: Founded by Rinaldo Piaggio in 1884, Piaggio first made railroad locomotives. In WWI and WWII they made military aircraft. They still do make aircraft and many other machines. After WWII they transitioned to civilian necessities, like motor scooters. The first Piaggio Vespa scooters had front suspension made from a light airplane landing gear. The first scooter wheels were aircraft wheels and tires. The stamped sheet metal body-frame was an aircraft design. They were named Vespa, which means “wasp” in Italian, because the two-stroke engine sounded like a wasp. The superior designs made the products light, efficient, affordable, convenient and safe. Soon Vespa became a worldwide motor vehicle manufacturer. By the 1970’s the name Vespa became synonymous with motor-scooter, like Coke is with cola, or Kleenex is with facial tissue. Read more at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaggio

From about 1968 to 1975 Vespa mopeds were imported to the US and distributed by Western Scooter Distributors, 1599 Custer St, San Francisco CA 94124.

From about 1976 to 1985 they were imported and distributed by Vespa of America Corporation, National Headquarters, 355 Valley Dr, Brisbane CA 94005.

Here are Myrons Mopeds old info sheet handouts. They were black and white copies on paper.

Info Vespa 1

Info Vespa 3

Info Vespa 2

Info Vespa 4

Info Vespa 5

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The name TOMOS is from TÔvarna (factory) MÔtornih koles (motorcycles) Sezana (city in western Yugoslavia). TOMOS began in Sezana but later moved to Koper, Yugoslavia.

former-Yugoslavia nations

Slovenia was a republic of Yugoslavia until March 1991, when it became an independent country, the Republic of Slovenia. Here is the historic district of Koper, Slovenia in 2004.

1955: TOMOS began

1956 to 1981+ Puch remakes: From 1956 to 1981 Tomos made, under license, mopeds and motorcycles that were exact copies of Puch models. Until 1973 the Puch remakes were called Colibri 1,2,3, up to 15. After 1973 most were called APN. They had 2, 3, and 4-speed manual transmission. Pedal models had left-hand grip-shift. Kick models had foot shift.

1973 to 1974 Tomos A3: In 1973 Tomos introduced their own stamped steel frame, engine, and wheels, the 1973 Automatic 1, a one speed. A two speed version soon followed, the 1973 Automatic 3, and the 1974 Automatic 3K. These went 28mph, made 2.0 horsepower, and weighed 97 lbs. The A3 pedaled forward like a bicycle, yet started the engine by kicking backwards. There is no start lever on a Tomos.

1991 was the break up of former Yugoslavia, after years of civil war, into eight independent countries.

Inside the Tomos plant in 2004.

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Yamaha QT50

Yamaha Cables

The throttle and choke cables on Yamaha are longer than most, because they go inside the frame, first way down low, then up high and then down again, like a roller coaster. That gives the bike a clean look, and a convenient low step-thru frame. But the bottom low part traps water. This happens with many other cables that go way low then up, like all scooters have.

1979-87 Yamaha QT50 choke cable $22

4. B I N G S O L O 8 or 10 mm, clamp size 16 mm

3. B I N G K R E I D L E R C A R B S 10 or 12mm clamp size 16mm

2. B I N G S A C H S C A R B S 10 or 12mm clamp size 20mm

1. B I N G P U C H C A R B S 12, 14, or 15mm clamp size 20mm

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’85-89 SLE-X, Variant Sport, DS50

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4. B I N G S O L O
8 or 10 mm, clamp size 16 mm

3. B I N G K R E I D L E R C A R B S
10 or 12mm clamp size 16mm

2. B I N G S A C H S C A R B S
10 or 12mm clamp size 20mm

1. B I N G P U C H C A R B S
12, 14, or 15mm clamp size 20mm