Bianchi Cables

November 29, 2020

1976-79 Bianchi Snark with Minarelli engine

1977 Bianchi Snark Eagle, Minarelli V1 engine

Bianchi cables are single-ended like most Italian mopeds. The carb is center mount so the throttle cable is short.

Front brake 39 x 46″     $10

Rear brake 60 x 67″       $11

Start (clutch) 43 x 47+”  $10

Throttle cable 34 x 40+” $11

1976-79 Bianchi with Morini MO-1 engine

The start cable is different but the other three are the same.

 

 

 

 


General and Lazer Cables

November 29, 2020

updated 2021-06

Contents:
A. Overview and Parts Manuals
B. Cables for Sale, listed by Application
C. Cables for Sale, listed by Cable Type

 

 

 


A. Overview and Parts Manuals

General cable sets: With General and General-compatible mopeds there are 36 possible cable sets, because there are 3 engine types (Sachs, Sachs-foot-brake, and Minarelli) times 2 control types (Lazer or General) times 3 hub sizes (80, 90 or 110 mm drum) times 2 brake switch types (in-cable or in-lever).

But on actual bikes there were 10 different cable sets, made out of 16 different original cables, and listed below. 

General part numbers: The first 4 digits tell the cable version: 1150, 2150, 3150, 4150, 5150. These are from the manuals, condensed in the table below. The last 4 digits tell the cable application: 6284 choke, 6293 start, 6294 front brake, 6295 rear brake, 6296 throttle. These are in table header below.

General parts manuals: The parts manuals were inside the service manuals or were separate add-on lists. Cable part numbers are sourced from these 7 parts manuals or price lists.   

1977
set 1

1978
set 1

1979
set 1

1978
set 5

1980
set 6

1981
set 2

1983  3, 
7,8,9,10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cables for General and General-compatible Mopeds

0 choke start  front  rear throttle drum  controls   
0  6284 cable brake brake cable drums left   right

 or 6295 6293 6294 6295 6296 drums 6282 6281  engine  xxxx  brand   top tank   step-thru


  1. none 1150 1150 1150 1150  080  1150  1150  Minarelli ’77-79 Lazer Sport 50, Sport ST

  1. none 1150 1150 1150 1150  080  1150  1150  Minarelli ’78-79 General 5 Star 

  1. none 1150 1150 1150 1150  080  1150  1150  Minarelli ’78-79 General 5 Star ST

  1. none 1150 1150 1150 1150  080  1150  1150  Minarelli ’78-79 AMS Tahoe 50

  2. none 3150 3150 3150 1150  080  3150  3150  Minarelli ’79-81 General 5 Star, C2, 5 Star ST

  2. none 3150 3150 3150 1150  080  5150  5150  Minarelli ’82-83 General 5 Star, C2, 5 Star ST

  3. none 3150 5150 5150 1150  090  3150  3150  Minarelli ’79-83 General Limited Edition


  4. 2150 2150 1150 none 2150  080  1150  1150  Sachs foot ’77-78 Jui Li Honey 50

  4. 2150 2150 1150 none 2150  080  1150  1150  Sachs foot ’77-78 Clinton 50-A

  5. 4150 2150 1150 none 2150  080  2150  2150  Sachs foot ’79-80 Grycner models

  5. 4150 2150 1150 none 2150  080  2150  2150  Sachs foot ’78-80 AMS Sierra 50

  6. 4150 4150 1150 none 2150  080  4150  4150  Sachs foot ’79-80 General 5 Star ST

  6. 4150 4150 1150 none 2150  080  4150  4150  Sachs foot ’78-80 Jui Li Honey 50

  6. 4150 4150 1150 none 2150  080  4150  4150  Sachs foot ’78-80 Clinton 50-A

  7. 4150 2150 3150 none 1151  080  5151  5151  Sachs foot ’80-83 General 5 Star ST

  8. 4150 4150 3150 3150 1151  080  3150  4150  Sachs  oof ’80-83 General 5 Star ST

  8. 4150 4150 3150 3150 1151  080  5150  5151  Sachs  oof ’80-83 General 5 Star  made by Jui Li


  9. 4150 2150 1151 none 1151  110  4150  4150  Sachs foot ’80-85 AMS Sierra 50     by Her Chee

  9. 4150 2150 1151 none 1151  110  4150  4150  Sachs foot ’80-82 Sachs G4

10. 4150 4150 1151 3150 1151  110  3150  4150  Sachs  oof ’80-85 AMS Tahoe 50 

10. 4150 4150 1151 3150 1151  110  3150  4150  Sachs  oof ’80-82 Foxi 47

10. 4150 4150 1151 3150 1151  110  3150  4150  Sachs  oof ’80-83 General 5 Star ST

10. 4150 4150 1151 3150 1151  110  5150  5151  Sachs  oof ’80-85 General 5 Star 

10. 4150 4150 1151 3150 1151  110  3150  4150  Sachs  oof ’80-85 AMS Tahoe Sport G1, G2 

 

 

 

 

 


B. Cables for Sale, listed by Application

Sources: Part numbers are mostly from the parts manuals above. Some are guessed based on internet photos and measurements. Measurements are mostly from actual cables or calculated. Some are calculated from parts measurements.

 

Cable Set 1. 1977-79 Lazer Sport 50, Sport 50 ST
Cable Set 1. 1978-79 AMS Tahoe 50
Cable Set 1. made by Her Chee, with Minarelli V1 engine
Cable Set 1. 1978-79 General 5 Star, 5 Star ST
Cable Set 1. made by Jui Li, with Minarelli V1 engine

1977 Lazer Sport 50
1150 controls (black)

1977 Lazer Sport 50 ST
1150 controls (black)

1979 General 5 Star ST
1150 controls (silver)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Set 1 both hand brakes, 1150/1150 or 1150/1150 controls

1150-6282 left lever assy
1150-6287 left lever
1150-6285 start lever

1150-6281 right lever assy
1150-6297 throttle/switch
1150-6286 right lever

 

On Lazer-type controls the switches were separate from the controls.

Left control: No brake light switch hole. Left lever 1150-6287 and start lever 1150-6285 had 8.5 mm cable holes for 8.0 mm diameter barrel ends.

Right control: No brake light switch hole. Right lever 1150-6286 had a 8.5 cable hole for 8.0 cable end.

 

 

 

1150-6293   start cable Min/Laz none
42.3″ = 5.1 + 37.2  1 end ∅8 x 10
1150-6293r replacement black   $12

1150-6294   front brake cable     $27
40.2″ = 3.8 + 36.4 with switch
1150-6294u fr. brk. cable used   $19

1150-6295   rear brake cable    none
63.4″ = 2.1 + 3.8 + 57.5 with switch
1150-6295r replacement black  $27

.
1150-6296   throttle cable          $32
36.7″ = 3.7 + 29.5 + 3.5″
for Dellorto cable pipe 2c or 2cr
1150-6296r replacement black   $27

 

 

 


Cable Set 2. 1979-83 General 5-Star or C2
Cable set 2: made by Jui Li, Minarelli V1 or C2 engine

1979 General 5 Star

1980 General 5 Star

’81 General 5 Star

’82 General 5 Star

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

’83 General 5 Star ST

’83 General C2

’85 General 5 Star

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Set 2 both hand brakes, 3150/3150 (1979-81) or 5150/5150 (1982-85) controls

3150 and 5150

3150 and 5150

Left control 3150: Left lever 3150-6287. The plastic start lever 3150-6285 with mount 3150-6289 was below the control. Start cable end hole 6.5 mm for a 6.0 diameter barrel end.

Left control 5150: Left lever 5150-6287. The metal start lever 5150-6285 with mount 5150-6289 was below the control. Start cable end hole 6.5 mm for a 6.0 diameter barrel end.

Right control 3150: Right lever 3150-6286. Brake cable hole 8.5.  No choke lever.

Right control 5150: Right lever 5150-6286. Brake cable hole 8.5.  No choke lever.

 

3150-6293   start cable Min/Gen $13
42.3″ = 5.1 + 37.2  1 end ∅6 x 10
3150-6293r replacement black   $12

3150-6294   front brake cable   $34 
40.2″ = 3.8 + 36.4 ∅6 conduit
3150-6294r replacement black none

.
3150-6295   rear brake cable     $31
63.4″ = 2.1 + 3.8 + 57.5 ∅6 conduit
3150-6295r replacement black

.
315A-6295  1980’s aftermarket $25
63.9″ = 2.0 + 4.4 + 57.5 ∅7 conduit
315A-6295r replacement black

.
1150-6296   throttle cable         $32
36.7″ = 3.7 + 29.5 + 3.5″
for Dellorto cable pipe 2c or 2cr
1150-6296r replacement black  $27

 

 


Cable Set 3. 1979-83 General 5-Star Limited
Cable Set 3. made by Jui Li, with Minarelli V1 engine

1979 Limited Edition

1983 Limited Edition

’80 Limited Edition front wheel & brake

 

 

#2 is arm 5150-5084 &
pinch bolt 5150-5070

 

 

 

 

 

The Limited Edition has the same cables as the 5 Star, except the brake cables are 5150 one-ended type. A pinch bolt 5150-5070, Grimeca type P25, attaches the lower end to the brake arm 5150-5084. 

 

Set 3 both hand brakes, 3150/3150 controls

3150-6282 left control
3150-6287 left lever
3150-6285 start lever

3150-6281 right control
3150-6286 right lever

On General-type controls the switches were built into the controls.

Left control: Left lever 3150-6287 had a 8.5 mm cable hole for a 8.0 mm diameter barrel end. The plastic start lever 3150-6285 was below the bar with mount 3150-6289. Cable end hole was 6.5 mm for a 6.0 diameter barrel end.

Right control: Right lever 3150-6286 had a 8.5 hole for a 8.0 cable. No choke lever.

 

 

3150-6293   start cable Min/Gen $13
42.3″ = 5.1 + 37.2  1 end ∅6 x 10
3150-6293r replacement black   $12

5150-6294   front brake cable   none
41.5″ = 5.0 + 36.5  1 end ∅8 x 10
5150-6294r replacement black   $14

5150-6295   rear brake cable    none
64.5″ = 7.0 + 57.5  1 end ∅8 x 10
5150-6295r replacement black   $15

.
1150-6296   throttle cable          $32
36.7″ = 3.7 + 29.5 + 3.5″
for Dellorto cable pipe 2c or 2cr
1150-6296r replacement black   $27

 

 


Cable Set 4. 1977-78 Jui Li Honey 50
Cable Set 4. 1977-78 Clinton 50-A
Cable Set 4. 1979-80 Grycner Floozie, Palm Springs
Cable Set 4. made by Jui Li, with Sachs 505/1A engine with foot brake

 

 

1978 Jui Li Honey 50

1978 Clinton 50 A

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Set 4 rear foot brake, 1150/1150 controls

1150-6281 right lever assy
1150-6297 throttle/switch

1150-6282 left lever assy
1150-6287 left lever
1150-6285 start lever

On Lazer-type controls the switches were separate from the controls.

Left control: No brake light switch hole. Left lever 2150-6287 and start lever 2150-6285 had 8.5 mm cable holes for 8.0 mm diameter barrel ends. The left lever was for start. The start lever was for choke.

Right control: No brake light switch hole. Right lever 2150-6286 had a 8.5 cable hole for 8.0 cable end.

 

 

 

2150-6284/6295  choke cable  none
39.9″ = 2.5 + 36.4 ∅8
2150-6284r replacement black  $23

2150-6293   start cable Sachs   none
40.5″ = 1.1 + 37.6 + 1.8 1-ended ∅4.5-∅6
with upper pinch bolt P7b ∅7×11
2150-6293r replacement black  $23

2150-6294 = 1150-6294 f. brk. $27
40.2″ = 3.8 + 36.4 with switch
2150-6294r replacement black

.
2150-6296   throttle cable        $32
38.2″ = 4.4 + 30.3 + 3.5″
for Sachs-Bing long cable pipe  
2150-6296r replacement black $28

 

 

 


Cable Set 5. 1977-78 AMS Sierra 50
Cable Set 5. 1979-80 Grycner Floozie, Palm Springs
Cable Set 5. made by Jui Li, with Sachs 505/1A engine with foot brake

 

1978 AMS Sierra 50 with 2150 controls
The left 2150 control has a 4150 lever.

 

1980 Grycner with 2150 controls

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Set 5 rear foot brake, 2150/2150 small-hand controls

L, 2150-6281 right control small
R, 4150-6281 for comparison

L, 2150-6282 left control small
R, 4150-6282 for comparison

No threaded hole for brake light switch.

These photos show the 2150 brake levers are smaller than 3150, 4150 and 5150 ones, and pull the cable less. The levers do not interchange but the cables do. This design is for smaller hands.

The brake cable inner wire length required by the the 2150 controls is 3 mm less than on 3150, 4150, 5150 controls, but 4 to 5 mm more than on 1150 controls.

 

4150-6284/6295  choke cable    $20
37.9″ = 1.5 + 36.4″ 2-ended 
4150-6284r replacement black  $20

415B-6284   1980’s aftermarket $10
38.5″ = 1.4 + 37.1″  0.6″ longer
USA made by Barnett, lined 

2150-6293   start cable Sachs   none
40.5″ = 1.1 + 37.6 + 1.8 1-ended ∅4.5-∅6
with upper pinch bolt P7b ∅7×11
2150-6293r replacement black  $23

2150-6294 = 1150-6294 f. brk. $27
40.2″ = 3.8 + 36.4 with switch
2150-6294r replacement black

.
2150-6296   throttle cable        $32
38.2″ = 4.4 + 30.3 + 3.5″
for Sachs-Bing long cable pipe  
2150-6296r replacement black $28

 

 

 

 


Cable Set 6. 1979-80 General 5 Star ST
Cable Set 6. 1978-80 Jui Li Honey 50
Cable Set 6. 1978-80 Clinton 50-A
Cable Set 6. made by Jui Li, with Sachs 505/1A, 1B engine with foot-brake

 

1978 Jui Li Honey 50
4150/4150 controls

1978 Clinton 50-A

1980 Clinton 50-A

1980 Gen. 5 Star ST
505/1A foot brake

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Set 6 rear foot brake, 4150/4150 controls

left control 4150-6282

right control 4150-6281

Left control: Has threaded hole for brake light switch. The left lever 4150-6287 was used as the start lever. It was made black to distinguish it from the right brake lever. A sticker says “start” and points to the black lever. Cable hole 8.5 mm for a 8.0 mm diameter barrel end.

Right control: Has threaded hole for brake light switch. Right lever 3150-6286 had a 8.5 cable hole for 8.0 cable end. Choke lever 4150-6270.

 

4150-6284/6295  choke cable    $20
37.9″ = 1.5 + 36.4″ 2-ended 
4150-6284r replacement black  $20

415B-6284   1980’s aftermarket $10
38.5″ = 1.4 + 37.1″  0.6″ longer
USA made by Barnett, lined 

2150-6293   start cable Sachs    none
40.5″ = 1.1 + 37.6 + 1.8 1-ended ∅4.5-∅6
with upper pinch bolt P7b ∅7×11
2150-6293r replacement black  $23

1150-6294   front brake cable    $27
40.2″ = 3.8 + 36.4 with switch
1150-6294r replacement black

.
2150-6296   throttle cable         $32
38.2″ = 4.4 + 30.3 + 3.5″
for Sachs-Bing long cable pipe  
2150-6296r replacement black  $28

.
215L-6296   1980’s aftermarket $32
40.7″ = 4.4 + 32.8 + 3.5″  2.5″ longer
for Sachs-Bing long cable pipe  
215L-6296r replacement black  $28

 

 


Cable Set 7. 1980-83 General 5 Star ST
Cable Set 70. made by Jui Li, with Sachs 505/1A engine with foot brake

1983 General 5 Star ST

 

 

 

 

 

 

Set 7 rear foot brake, 5151/5151 controls

right control 5151-6281

left control 5151-6282

 

Left control: The start lever and mount were removed. Brake cable hole 8.5 mm for a 8.0 mm barrel end.

Right control: Brake cable 8.0 barrel end.  Choke lever 2150-6287. Choke lever hole 6.5 mm for a 6.0 diameter barrel end.

 

 

4150-6284/6295  choke cable    $20
37.9″ = 1.5 + 36.4″ 2-ended 
4150-6284r replacement black  $20

415B-6284   1980’s aftermarket $10
38.5″ = 1.4 + 37.1″  0.6″ longer
USA made by Barnett, lined 

2150-6293   start cable Sachs   none
40.5″ = 1.1 + 37.6 + 1.8 1-ended ∅4.5-∅6
with upper pinch bolt P7b ∅7×11
2150-6293r replacement black  $23

3150-6294   front brake cable   $34 
40.2″ = 3.8 + 36.4 ∅6 conduit
3150-6294r replacement black none

.
1151-6296   throttle cable        none
38.2″ = 4.0 + 30.7 + 3.5″
for Sachs-Bing short cable pipe  
1151-6296r replacement black  $27

 

 

 


Cable Set 8. 1980-83 General 5-Star ST
Cable Set 8. 1980-83 General 5 Star
Cable Set 8. made by Jui Li, with Sachs 505/1A engine

1980 General 5 Star ST
3150/4150 controls

1983 General 5 Star ST
3150/4150 controls

1981 General 5 Star
5150/5151 controls

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Set 8 both hand brakes, 3150/4150 or 5150/5151 controls

3150 and 5150

4150 and 5151

 

Left control: The metal start lever 5150-6287 with mount 5150-6289 was below the control.  Start cable end hole 6.5 mm for a 6.0 diameter barrel end. Brake cable hole 8.5 mm for a 8.0 mm barrel end.

Right control: Brake cable 8.0 barrel end.  Choke lever 2150-6287. Choke lever hole 6.5 mm for a 6.0 diameter barrel end.

 

 

 

4150-6284/6295  choke cable    $20
37.9″ = 1.5 + 36.4″ 2-ended 
4150-6284r replacement black  $20

415B-6284   1980’s aftermarket $10
38.5″ = 1.4 + 37.1″  0.6″ longer
USA made by Barnett, lined 

4150-6293   start cable Sachs    none
40.3″ = 1.1 + 37.4 + 1.8 1-ended ∅4.5-∅6
with upper pinch bolt P6c ∅5.5×10
4150-6293r replacement black  $23

3150-6294   front brake cable   $34 
40.2″ = 3.8 + 36.4 ∅6 conduit
3150-6294r replacement black  none

3150-6295   rear brake cable     $31
63.4″ = 2.1 + 3.8 + 57.5 ∅7 conduit
3150-6295r replacement black

.
1151-6296   throttle cable        none
38.2″ = 4.0 + 30.7 + 3.5″
for Sachs-Bing short cable pipe  
1151-6296r replacement black  $27

 

 


Cable Set 9. 1980-85 AMS Sierra 50
Cable Set 9. 1980-82 Sachs G4
Cable Set 9. made by Her Chee, with Sachs 505/1A, B or D engine

1981 Sachs G4, 505/1B foot brake
rod type F brake cable, 4150 controls

1981 Sachs G4

 

 

 

Sachs G4 rear foot brake
110 mm ID brake drum

 

 

 

 

3150 rear brake cable. left: 110 mm drum, right: 80 mm drum. They both use the same cable!
Here an Angel ∅80-left brake plate is shown, an exact mirror image of a General ∅80-right.

 

 

 

1984 AMS Sierra 50
505/1D foot brake
rod type F brake cable

’84 AMS Sierra 50
505/1D foot brake
rod type F brake cable

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Set 9 rear foot brake, 4150/4150 control

left control 4150-6282

right control 4150-6281

 

 

 

 

 

 

4150-6284/6295  choke cable    $20
37.9″ = 1.5 + 36.4″ 2-ended 
4150-6284r replacement black  $20

415B-6284   1980’s aftermarket $10
38.5″ = 1.4 + 37.1″  0.6″ longer
USA made by Barnett, lined 

2150-6293   start cable Sachs   none
40.5″ = 1.1 + 37.6 + 1.8 1-ended ∅4.5-∅6
with upper pinch bolt P7b ∅7×11
2150-6293r replacement black  $23

1151-6294   front brake cable   $30
44.2″ = 1.9 + 4.2+ 38.1 rod type
1151-6294r replacement black  $27

3150-6295   rear brake cable     $31
63.4″ = 2.1 + 3.8 + 57.5 ∅7 conduit
3150-6295r replacement black

.
1151-6296   throttle cable        none
38.2″ = 4.0 + 30.7 + 3.5″
for Sachs-Bing short cable pipe  
1151-6296r replacement black  $27

 

 

 


Cable Set 10. 1980-85 General 5 Star
Cable Set 10. 1980-85 AMS Tahoe 50, Tahoe Sport G1
Cable Set 10. made by Her Chee, with Sachs 505/1D engine
Cable Set 10. 1980-82 Foxi 47
Cable Set 10. 1980-83 General 5 Star ST
Cable Set 10. made by Her Chee, with Sachs 505/1A engine

 

1980 Foxi 47
3150/4150 controls
rod type F brake cable

1980 5 Star ST 
3150/4150 controls

1983 General 5 Star
5150/5151 controls

1983 AMS Tahoe G2
rod type F brake cable

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1983 5-Star (Her Chee), 5150/5151 controls

’84 AMS Tahoe Sport
3150/4150 controls

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3150/4150 controls are on dual hand brake models with Sachs engines

1151 rod-type front brake cable is on big hub models made by Her Chee

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Set 10 both hand brakes, 3150/4150 or 5150/5151 controls

3150 and 5150

4150 and 5151

 

Left control: The metal start lever 5150-6287 with mount 5150-6289 was below the control.  Start cable end hole 6.5 mm for a 6.0 diameter barrel end. Brake cable hole 8.5 mm for a 8.0 mm barrel end.

Right control: Brake cable 8.0 barrel end.  Choke lever 2150-6287. Choke lever hole 6.5 mm for a 6.0 diameter barrel end.

 

 

 

4150-6284/6295  choke cable    $20
37.9″ = 1.5 + 36.4″ 2-ended 
4150-6284r replacement black  $20

4150-6293   start cable Sachs    none
40.3″ = 1.1 + 37.4 + 1.8 1-ended ∅4.5-∅6
with upper pinch bolt P6c ∅5.5×10
4150-6293r replacement black  $23

1151-6294   front brake cable   $30
44.2″ = 1.9 + 4.2+ 38.1 rod type
1151-6294r replacement black  $27

3150-6295   rear brake cable     $31
63.4″ = 2.1 + 3.8 + 57.5 ∅7 conduit
3150-6295r replacement black  none

.
1151-6296   throttle cable        none
38.2″ = 4.0 + 30.7 + 3.5″
for Sachs-Bing short cable pipe  
1151-6296r replacement black  $27

 

 

 

 

 

 


C. Cables for Sale, listed by type

 

General-Sachs cables compared to Hercules-Sachs and Columbia-Sachs:

Choke cables for 1970’s mopeds with Sachs 504 and 505 engines all have about a 36 to 38 inch conduits. Hercules is 37, Columbia is 38.4, General is 36.4.

Throttle cables for 1970’s mopeds with Sachs 504/505 engines all have 34 to 37 inch conduits. Hercules is 35, Columbia is 37, General is 34.2.

Start (clutch and decompression) cables for 1970’s mopeds with Sachs 504/505 engines all have 34 to 37 inch conduits. Hercules is 35, Columbia is 37, General is 34.5.

 

6284/6295 – Choke Cables

2150-6284/6295  choke cable  none
39.9″ = 2.5 + 36.4 ∅8
2150-6284r replacement black  $23

4150-6284/6295  choke cable    $20
37.9″ = 1.5 + 36.4″ 2-ended 
4150-6284r replacement black  $20

415B-6284   1980’s aftermarket $10
38.5″ = 1.4 + 37.1″  0.6″ longer
USA made by Barnett, lined 

415S-6284   1980’s aftermarket $15
34.4″ = 1.5 + 32.9″  3.5″ shorter
Taiwan made, Shorter for low bars

 

Choke cables are about 2 inches longer than Sachs 504/505 throttle cables. Most of that difference is due to the throttle cable pipe length.

 


6293 – Start Cables

1150-6293   start cable Min/Laz none
42.3″ = 5.1 + 37.2  1 end ∅8 x 10
1150-6293r replacement black   $12

2150-6293   start cable Sachs    none
40.5″ = 1.1 + 37.6 + 1.8 1-ended ∅4.5-∅6
with upper pinch bolt P7b ∅7×11
2150-6293r replacement black   $23

3150-6293   start cable Min/Gen $13
42.3″ = 5.1 + 37.2  1 end ∅6 x 10
3150-6293r replacement black   $12

4150-6293   start cable Sachs    none
40.3″ = 1.1 + 37.4 + 1.8 1-ended ∅4.5-∅6
with upper pinch bolt P6c ∅5.5×10
4150-6293r replacement black   $23

 

The Sachs 504 and 505 engine start cable goes through a small hole in the engine case. It cannot be double-ended and ready-made because the lower end cannot fit though the small hole. So it is single-ended and must have the upper end installed last as a pinch bolt.

The lower cable end goes in a starter clutch arm with two different holes, 5.1 and 6.5 mm ID. So the cable end has to be 4.9 and 6.3 mm OD or less. Here the specification is 4.5 and 6.0 but it can be a little more or less.

 

 

 


6294 – Front Brake Cables

1150-6294   front brake cable    $27
40.2″ = 3.8 + 36.4 with switch
1150-6294u fr. brk. cable used   $19

1151-6294   front brake cable   $30
44.2″ = 1.9 + 4.2+ 38.1 rod type
1151-6294r replacement black  $27

2150-6294 = 1150-6294            $27

3150-6294   front brake cable   $34 
40.2″ = 3.8 + 36.4 ∅6 conduit
3150-6294r replacement black  none

5150-6294   front brake cable    none
41.5″ = 5.0 + 36.5  1 end ∅8 x 10
5150-6294r replacement black   $14

 


6295 – Rear Brake Cables

1150-6295   rear brake cable     none
63.4″ = 2.1 + 3.8 + 57.5 with switch
1150-6295r replacement black  $27
.

3150-6295   rear brake cable     $31
63.4″ = 2.1 + 3.8 + 57.5 ∅7 conduit
3150-6295r replacement black  none
.

315A-6295  1980’s aftermarket $25
63.9″ = 2.0 + 4.4 + 57.5 ∅6 conduit
315A-6295r replacement black  none
.

5150-6295   rear brake cable    none
64.5″ = 7.0 + 57.5  1 end ∅8 x 10
5150-6295r replacement black  $15

 


6296 – Throttle Cables

1150-6296   throttle cable          $32
36.7″ = 3.7 + 29.5 + 3.5″
for Dellorto cable pipe 2c or 2cr
1150-6296r replacement black   $27
.

1151-6296   throttle cable        none
38.2″ = 4.0 + 30.7 + 3.5″
for Sachs-Bing short cable pipe  
1151-6296r replacement black  $27
.

2150-6296   throttle cable         $32
38.2″ = 4.4 + 30.3 + 3.5″
for Sachs-Bing long cable pipe  
2150-6296r replacement black  $28
.

215L-6296   1980’s aftermarket $32
40.7″ = 4.4 + 32.8 + 3.5″  2.5″ longer
for Sachs-Bing long cable pipe  
215L-6296r replacement black  $28

 

 

Dellorto cable pipes

Sachs-Bing cable pipes

 

These cables are for a specific length of cable pipe.

Left,  Dellorto 2c or 2cr is required for 1150-6296.

Right,  Sachs-Bing long is required for 2150-6296.

Right, Sachs-Bing short is required for 1151-6296.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Benelli Cables

November 29, 2020

 

 


1. Cables for Benelli G2

1979 Benelli G2 (US model)

 

Benelli G2 start cable types
Top is 1978-80 G2
Bottom is 76-77 Blazer

 

Benelli G2 start cable

 

 

 


2. Cables for Benelli Blazer (Export FA)

1977 Benelli Blazer (US model of Export FA)

 

 

120 35.11.75.40 Gooo    1-ended throttle cable CT1s
Domino sliding-block right control, no upper adjuster
33 x 2.4+” grey or black  $10  .

 

 
001
70.09.30.10 G244/20  1-ended start cable 1L .
Domino third-lever left control, with upper adjuster
52 x 5+” grey or black  $10  .
002 48.80.24.70 M277    pinch bolt P20 photo 
003 48.80.25.70 G10 oo  spring subst. 6.5-7.0 id x 60-75
004 48.80.18.70 UI7191 stop cap (step ferrule) F5C photo 
041 70.62.69.20 G7/4 00 adjuster A3a 
35a00.00.00.00 Gooo    anchor pin D14a subst. image

 

Benelli Blazer rear brake cable 58 x 64″ 1-ended mushroom

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


3. Cables for Benelli Mini Cycles

 

 

1971 Benelli Hurricane conduit lengths
front brake  32″
rear brake   48″
throttle       28″
start/clutch 32″

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Hercules Cables

November 29, 2020

Hercules Cables

Hercules mopeds are commonly known as Sachs in the USA. Here the true maker name Hercules is used to avoid confusion with Sachs engines, which are used on other brands, and to include other alias brands Eagle, Moppet, DKW, Pegasus, etc, made by Hercules. 

 

Hercules choke short 1-ended 170.80.08
’80-83 Sachs Prima G3, low bars with 505 foot brake
1982 Bombardier Eagle III with Sachs 505 foot brake

33.4+ = 31.8 + 1.6+ with pinch bolt
replacement black $12

Hercules choke 1-ended 170.80.09
1970-77 Hercules M1, M2, P1 sheet frame, Sachs 504
1978-80 Sachs Westlake, Sundancer with Sachs 504
1973-77 Hercules M4, M5, P3 tube frame 505 foot brake

1978-80 Sachs Balboa, Suburban with 505 foot brake
1980-83 Sachs Seville, Prima with 505 foot brake
1982 Bombardier Eagle I, II with Sachs 505 foot brake
37.4+ = 35.8 + 1.6+ with pinch bolt
replacement black $12

 


Sachs start  cables depend on what frame, what handlebar and what controls. All Sachs start (clutch-decomp) cables have to be single-ended because they must pass through a small 2.5 mm hole in the Sachs 504 or 505 engine case.

Sachs start (clutch) inner wire 1-ended WCS
47″ universal ’70-95 with Sachs 504 or 505 engine
replacement 1.5 mm
$11

Hercules start short 1-ended 170.69.02
’79-83 Sachs Prima G3, low bars with 505 foot brake
1982
Bombardier Eagle III with Sachs 505 foot brake

34.4″ = 1.1+2.8+0.3+28.0+1.2+1.0
replacement black
$21

Hercules start 1-ended 170.73.81
1970-77 Hercules M1, M2, P1 sheet frame, Sachs 504
1978-80 Sachs Westlake, Sundancer with Sachs 504
1973-77 Hercules M4, M5, P3 tube frame 505 foot brake
1978-80 Sachs Balboa, Suburban with 505 foot brake

1979-83 Sachs Seville, Prima with 505 foot brake
1982 Bombardier Eagle I, II with Sachs 505 foot brake
38.4″ = 1.1+2.8+0.3+32.0+1.2+1.0
replacement black
$21

 


Many bikes do not have their original throttle cable pipe (aka elbow, bendy) since the carburetor or top parts can be from other models or a remake. So to avoid guessing, the cable pipe length, short or long, must be identified visually, to get the correct throttle cable.

 

Hercules A x        1-ended 170.72.92
most ’70-76 Herc. M1, M2, P1 sheet frame with 504
most ’73-76 Moppet P504 with Sachs 504
most ’73-76 Herc. M4, M5, P3 tube frame 505 ft brk

most ’74-76 Moppet P505 with Sachs 505 foot brake
40.0+ = 35.5 + 4.5 + 1.3 with pinch bolt
170.72.92r       replacement black
$12
40.0 = 35.5 + 4.5 for short cable pipe
170.72.92Ar 2-ended replacement
$19

 

Hercules B x        1-ended 170.72.17
most ’77-83 Herc. M1, M2, P1 sheet frame with 504
most ’78-80 Sachs Westlake, Sundancer with 504
most ’77-83 Herc. M4, M5, P3 tube frame 505 ft brk

most ’78-80 Sachs Balboa, Suburban 505 foot brake

most ’79-83 Sachs Seville, Prima with 505 foot brake
most ’82 Bombardier Eagle I, II with 505 foot brake
40.0+ = 35.0 + 5.0 + 1.3 with pinch bolt
170.72.17r       replacement black
$12
40.0 = 35.0 + 5.0 for long cable pipe

170.72.17Br 2-ended replacement
$19

 

Hercules B short  1-ended 170.72.16 
’79-83 Sachs Prima G3, low bars with 505 foot brake

1982 Bombardier Eagle III with Sachs 505 foot brake

36.0+ = 31.0 + 5.0 + 1.3 with pinch bolt
170.72.16r       replacement black $12
36.0 = 31.0 + 5.0 for long cable pipe

170.72.16Br 2-ended replacement $19

 

Hercules front brake  1-ended 170.70.73 $18
40.7=36.5+4.2  ∅2.0
without clevis clamp P26a
’75-76 Hercules M1,M2,P1 sheet frame with 504
’75-76 Herc. M4,M5,P3 tube frame, 505 foot brake
 
170.70.73r  1-ended replacement ∅1.5     $12
clevis clamps: P26a
$20.0  P26d $13.0

 

Hercules rear brake  1-ended 170.70.76 $20
66.7=62.5+4.2  ∅2.0
without clevis clamp P26a
’75-76 Hercules M1,M2,P1 sheet frame with 504

170.70.76r 1-ended replacement ∅1.5     $12
clevis clamps: P26a
$20.0  P26d $13.0
.

 

Hercules front brake  2-ended 170.70.05 $35
’77-83 Westlake, Sundancer sheet frame with 504
’77-83 Balboa, Suburban, Prima (tube) 505 foot brk

40.7=36.5+4.2  ∅2.0  clevis is riveted to brake arm
170.70.05r 2-ended replacement ∅1.5     $23

 

Hercules rear brake  2-ended 170.70.01 $38
’77-83 Westlake, Sundancer sheet frame with 504

66.7=62.5+4.2  ∅2.0  clevis is riveted to brake arm
170.70.01r 2-ended replacement ∅1.5     $25

 

Hercules front brake  2-ended 170.70.03 none
’80-83 Seville sheet frame with Sachs 505 foot brake

???=??.? + ??.?  ∅2.0 clevis is riveted to brake arm
170.70.03r 2-ended replacement ∅1.5     $

 

Hercules front brake  2-ended 170.70.03 $30
’79-83 Prima G3 tube frame with Sachs 505 foot brake

36.7=32.5+4.2  ∅2.0 clevis is riveted to brake arm
170.70.03r 2-ended replacement ∅1.5     $23

 

 

 

 

 

Grimeca Brake Arms

Brake cable lower end types
1. built-in clevis for 6mm pear end
2. Grimeca pinch bolt for no end
3. Tomos pinch bolt for no end
4. 8mm barrel end or pinch bolt
5. clevis end or clevis pinch bolt

 

Early Hercules cables were all single ended, in the tradition of bicycles. The brake cables had clevis type pinch bolt ends, type 5 at the right. The clevis piece and adjuster are sold separately.

Hercules cable end clevis type

Hercules clevis end
is riveted to arm

 

Later Hercules had double ended brake cables, in the tradition of motorcycles. They attached easily and securely to a clevis piece that was riveted to the lever arm. This made it safer and more fool proof, but also made the brake cables specific and difficult to get or make.

 

 

 

 

The early controls (not shown), here nicknamed “Early 1970’s Magura” had bottomless threaded holes, requiring standard M6-1.0 adjusters. After 1976-77 they had the “1970’s Magura” controls. The brake cable end holes changed from threaded bottomless to slotted with bottom, to accept either a plain cable or, optionally, a Magura type adjuster.

 

Hercules Sachs choke cable

Hercules Sachs choke cable, single ended

Sachs air filter with choke

Sachs air filter

Front half with choke

Front half w/choke

 

 

 

 

 

The Sachs external choke is part of the air filter box, front half. The Ø3 end goes in the plastic slide. The upper bare end requires a 5×7 pinch bolt for the right thumb lever. The design requires that the upper end of the cable be removed to install or remove the cable. (If there was a double ended Sachs choke cable it would require a Magura type adjuster to be adjusted way up/tighter to allow for installation slack). 

Hercules Sachs Throttle Cable

Hercules-Sachs throttle cable, single ended

Since this is a single ended cable, it does not matter if the carb elbow is long or short. The pinch bolt can be located accordingly.

All original Hercules cables had light grey plastic oil ports, located a few inches from the top end. Replacement cables do not have oil ports. 

 

 

 

1975 Moppett, Sachs 504-1A, short carb elbow

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Cimatti Cables

November 29, 2020

Cimatti Cables

FRONT BRAKE
sleeve x wire
upper end
lower end
REAR BRAKE
sleeve x wire
upper end
lower end
THROTTLE
sleeve x wire
upper end
lower end
START CABLE
sleeve x wire
upper end
lower end
CHOKE CABLE
sleeve x wire
upper end
lower end
1977-80 Cimatti
City Bike
sliding block throttle
Minarelli V1, side carb
38 x 42" Ø1.5
6mm pear
no end
black $10
64 x 69" Ø1.5
6mm pear
no end
black $13
38 x 42" Ø1.2
no end
3x5 inline
black $12
43 x 47" Ø1.5
6mm pear
no end
black $10
none
1976-77 Cimatti
City Bike
wrap-around throttle
Minarelli V1, side carb
same as above same as above 38 x 42" Ø1.2
5x7 barrel
3x5 inline
black $20
same as above none

 

Domino "70s chrome" wrap-around throttle

“wrap-around” throttle

Cimatti early throttle cable, double ended, for cable pipe 2b.
For longer pipe 2a, exposed length is shorter, 3.5″.
A Ø8 end cap is added over the Ø6 one on top, for centering.

1976 and some 1977 Cimatti had Domino wrap-around type throttles and double ended throttle cables. 

 

 

 

 

 

Cimatti Carb Elbow correct

Vespa cable pipe 2a is too high for floorboards

Cimatti Carb Elbow shorter one

Short cable pipe 2b is correct for Cimatti

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Early type double ended cable: For the original double ended throttle cable to fit, the curved pipe aka carb elbow must be the one that is 22mm tall and 30mm long, at the far left. If a different carb elbow is used, then the cable must be cut and re-soldered to match.

5mm Adjusters: Wonder why a Cimatti early double ended throttle cable does not have the 5mm adjuster trapped onto the cable, but a Puch double ended throttle cable does? It is because the center hole is over 3mm on the Italian Dellorto M5-0.75 thread adjuster, but under 3mm on the German Bing M5-0.80 thread adjuster. So the 3mm diameter carb end passes through on Dellorto, but not on Bing.

 

Domino DA0 right control

“sliding block” throttle

Cimatti (most) throttle cable, single ended

Cimatti (most) throttle cable, single ended

1978 and later, and some 1977 Cimatti had Domino slide type throttles that used single ended throttle cables. The cable runs parallel to the handlebar.

 

 

Later type single ended cable: Most Cimatti are this later type. It does not care what carb or what elbow is on the other end. During installation the (usually new) wire is pulled almost taut, so any excess slack is removed. After the pinch bolt in the sliding block is tightened, the excess wire “tail” is cut off.

 

 


AMF Cables

November 29, 2020

AMF Cables

AMF brake arms

1978-83 AMF Roadmaster mopeds have special brake cables. All models, 110, 115, 120, 125, 130, 140, 141 have the same controls and hand brake levers. At the upper end the black plastic hand lever is a unique American design that requires a special cable end. The original end piece looks like a “T” but the replacement is just the top part of the “T”, made from a Ø3.9 x 7.2 mm brass cable end E5f, ground shorter to Ø3.9 x 5.9 mm.

On all models the lower end of the cable has no soldered-on cable end. The cable is the same but the piece that attaches it to the brake arm has two types. Models 110 and 115 have Hercules-Sachs type special clevis clamps (right in photo) on both front and rear. Models 120, 125, 130, 140, 141 have clevis clamp on front, and Grimeca pinch bolt (left in photo) on rear.

AMF Roadmaster front replacement brake cable, bare $19

 

AMF original brake lever and cable

 

 

AMF Roadmaster rear replacement brake cable, bare $19
pinch bolt $5, clevis clamp $15, adjuster $2, step ferrule $1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Garelli Cables

November 29, 2020

Garelli Cables

 

 

Replacement Brake Cables, single ended

1975-86 Garelli horizontal cylinder one speed models with front facing carb
1976-86 Garelli vertical cylinder two speed models with side facing carb
front brake $10  38 x 43″ Ø1.5 wire, 6mm pear end, black
rear brake  $10  60 x 66″ Ø1.5 wire, 6mm pear end, black

 

Replacement Throttle Cables, single ended

1975-86 Garelli horizontal cylinder models with front facing carb
throttle xxx $10  32 x 36+” Ø1.2 wire, 3×5 inline end, black

1976-86 Garelli vertical cylinder models with side facing carb
throttle xxx $10  38 x 42+” Ø1.2 wire, 3×5 inline end, black

1983-86 Garelli Basic horizontal cylinder one speed, front facing carb
throttle xxx $10  34 x 38+” Ø1.2 wire, 3×5 inline end, black

Original Garelli Start Cables

Things that are shown removed from the cable are not included with the cable.

Things that are shown installed in the cable are included with the cable.

So on the first cable below, the step ferrule is part of the cable, but the adjuster and clamp bolt are not.

 

H. Horizontal cylinder engine (Eureka, Sport, Gran Sport, Rally Sport, Super Sport, others)

Garelli horizontal engine start cable versions

Eureka Flex Standard Ø1.5 start cable 503754.7300 N/A
front pull, cable stop on frame, requires clamp bolt in hand lever

 

 

 

 

 

 

Eureka Flex Deluxe Ø1.5 start cable 503501.7300  $17
front pull, cable stop on engine, requires clamp bolt in hand lever

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sport, Rally Sport, Gran Sport, Super Sport  506851.7300 $27
Ø1.5 front pull, stop on frame, requires adapter in hand lever

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

V. Vertical cylinder engine (Gulp Matic, VIP, VIP-N, Monza GT, Avanti and Cosmo remakes, others)

Garelli vertical engine start cable versions

Garelli Gulp original start cable, rear-pull 500201.7300 N/A
rear pull, cable stop on engine, requires clamp bolt in hand lever

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Garelli VIP prototype cable, for sharp U-turn routing N/A
This sharp-bend U-turn shorter cable performed poorly.
The wide U-turn, longer cable was better, and superseded it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Garelli VIP start cable for wide U-turn 507251.7300  $23
rear pull, cable stop on frame, requires clamp bolt in hand lever

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Replacement Garelli Start Cables

12 Garelli replacement start cables are offered: 3 lengths H,G or V, 2 styles d or e, 2 thicknesses 1.5 or 2.0.

Length is the same as original. For shorter or taller handlebars, the cable length would be shorter or longer.

Thickness is the same as original. (in mm) wire 1.5, conduit 5. HD cables are thicker, wire 2.0, conduit 6.

Why so many? 1) Garelli mopeds have different engines. The type of Garelli engine Horizontal, Gulp, or VIP, and the cable routing, determines the cable length. See above photos of original cable routing. 2) Garelli mopeds can have 2 different hand lever cable end pieces. The type of end piece in the hand lever (adapter “d” or clamp “e“) determines the style of cable inner wire end (mushroom or sideways barrel).  3) Standard “std” 1.5 mm, or heavy duty “HD” 2.0 mm thicknesses are offered. The thickness is a matter of choice.

Why heavy duty? Often the starter mechanism inside the engine gets worn, glazed or messed up, causing the starting clutch to slip. Then the start lever has to be squeezed real hard. A thicker cable performs better when the lever is squeezed really hard. The thicker HD cables are for Garelli mopeds that slip when starting.  

 

H. Horizontal cylinder engine (Eureka, Sport, Gran Sport, Rally Sport, Super Sport, others)

H1.5d start cable std bare $10  for when clamp “e” is missing
H2.0d start cable HD bare $20  for when clamp “e” is missing
H1.5e start cable std bare $10  for when clamp “e” is present
H2.0e start cable HD bare $20  for when clamp “e” is present

These “H” start cables are front-pull. So they are the shortest. See horizontal engine start cable photos above.

The replacement cable bare is just the wire and the conduit-with-end-caps. The pieces a, b, c, d, e are sold separately. They slide off or detach from the single-ended cable. See below.

 

 

 

 

 

 

G. Vertical cylinder “early” engine (Gulp Matic, others)

G1.5d start cable std bare $10  for when clamp “e” is missing
G2.0d start cable HD bare $20  for when clamp “e” is missing
G1.5e start cable std bare $10  for when clamp “e” is present
G2.0e start cable HD bare $20  for when clamp “e” is present

These “G” start cables are rear pull. So they are longer than “H”. They do a quick sharp U-turn, and stay on the same side of the frame. So they are not as long as the “V” type.

The replacement cable bare is just the wire and the conduit-with-end-caps. The pieces a, b, c, d, e are sold separately. They slide off or detach from the single-ended cable. See below.

 

 

 

 

 

 

V. Vertical cylinder “late” engine (VIP, VIP-N, Monza GT, Avanti and Cosmo remakes, others)

V1.5d start cable std bare $10  for when clamp “e” is missing
V2.0d start cable HD bare $20  for when clamp “e” is missing
V1.5e start cable std bare $10  for when clamp “e” is present
V2.0e start cable HD bare $20  for when clamp “e” is present

These “V” cables are rear-pull. They are the longest, because they go to the rear first, then make a wide U-turn behind the engine to the other side of the frame.

The replacement cable bare is just the wire and the conduit-with-end-caps. The pieces a, b, c, d, e are sold separately. They slide off or detach from the single-ended cable. See below.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Garelli Start Cable Pieces

a. clamp (pinch bolt) $$4  short for engine lever xxxx xxxx substitute, good quality, good design

b. ferrule (cable stop) x N/A  4.5 to 7.5 by 11.3, 6.1 id xxxxx Garelli original
b. ferrule (cable stop) x $$3  3.8 to 7.0 by 10.8, 5.9 id xxxx xsubstitute F2 Motobecane 16944

c. adjuster (cable stop)  $$6  M6 thread, ribbed xxxx xxxxxx  Garelli original 000315.9522
c. adjuster (cable stop)  $$2  M6 thread, hex style xxxx xxxx  substitute

d. adapter (socket bolt) $$4  cable anchor long with washer x substitute, washer keeps cable centered
d. adapter (socket bolt)  N/A  cable anchor short
 70’s Domino Garelli original 506851.5178, for start lever, pre-1986
d. adapter (socket bolt)  $$4  cable anchor 80’s Domino xxxx for all-black Domino controls, 1986-on Garelli models

e. clamp (pinch bolt) xx N/A  long for hand lever xxxx xxxxxx Garelli original 0009504.4554
f. clamp (pinch bolt) xx $$4  long for hand lever xxxx xxxxxx substitute, requires internal washers to stay centered
f. clamp (pinch bolt) xx $$4  long for hand lever xxxx xxxxxx this is difficult to install, more about this later…

 

Garelli start-clutch cables have been a difficult subject at Myrons Mopeds for many years. Not only are there different cables, engines and routings, but the bikes can have different end pieces, clamp “e” or adapter “d”. Those things can be changed, so the customer has to say what kind the bike has. To make matters worse, the clamp “e” has been scarce and unavailable since the 1980’s. So there is a lot of explaining to do. And then, there is a tendency for the start cable to wear out or break, because the starting clutch mechanism inside the engine slips, which requires the cable to be pulled very hard. 

 

Garelli start lever without socket bolt. 8mm hole size is same as brake but lever is thinner.

Garelli start lever
without socket bolt.
8mm hole size is
same as brake but
lever is thinner.

Domino Socket Bolts

Domino Socket Bolts

Domino Socket Bolts: 1970’s Italian moped brake levers and start lever use these adapter pieces to convert the pear end to a longer sideways barrel. They are more than just an adapter, because they have a slot for the inner wire to pass through, to allow installation. There are two lengths, 16mm for brake levers, and 14mm for decomp/start levers. It is important to have the cable wire centered in the lever. So there is a groove that the sheet metal lever sits in when the lever is squeezed. That groove keeps the socket bolt from sliding sideways. Without that groove, the cable still functions, but maybe not as well, or it might make a “click” sound and feel, when it does not stay centered. A longer one will substitute for a short one, with a 8mm washer under it. But the washer covers the centering groove, so it might not perform as well as an original.  

 

 


Batavus Cables

November 29, 2020

1970’s Batavus mopeds use 1970’s Magura controls. The left side is the rear brake and start lever. The right side is the front brake, throttle, and choke trigger. The brake cables connect to the levers with little adaptor pieces called socket bolts or cable anchors.

For Batavus cables, there are five model-categories:

a. 1976-78 HS50 and Mobat
M48 engine, bottom carb
low handlebars

b. 1974-80 VA, Starflite VA, HS
M48 engine, bottom carb
standard handlebars

c. 1976-78 Batavus Bronco
M48 engine, bottom carb
high and wide handlebars

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

d. 1978-80 Regency VA, HS with spoke wheels
M56 engine, side carb, std. handlebars

e. 1978-80 Batavus Regency VA, HS with mags
and 1982-85 Trac Eagle, Clipper, Hawk
M56 engine, side carb, std. handlebars

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

models  #/link   price         description


a0000 41-405r  $23  38.6 x 41.3″ Ø1.2  throttle cable replica, 2-ends 5×7 barrel, 3×5 inline
a0000 41-405r  $00  has a remake large Magura adjuster, not small

a0000 41-406   $15  38.8 x 40.1″ Ø1.2  choke cable original,   2-ends 5×7 barrel, 3×5 inline

a0000 41-407   $15  33.5 x 37.2″ Ø1.8  front brake original, x 2-ends 6mm pear, 8×15 barrel

a0000 41-408r  $20  57.5 x 60.8″ Ø1.5  rear brake replica, xx 2-ends 6mm pear, 8×12 barrel
0b0de 41-408r  $00  does not have Magura adjuster on upper end like the original does

a0000 41-409r  $10  35.5 x 44″    Ø1.5  start cable replica, xx 1-end  xxxxxxxxx, 6mm pear
a0000 41-409r  $00
  step ferrule F1c and adjuster A9a not included, sold separately below

0b000 41-246   $13  41.8 x 43.1″ Ø1.2  choke cable original,  2-ends 5×7 barrel, 3×5 inline

0b0de 41-247r  $10  39.5 x 48″    Ø1.5  start cable replica, 1-end  xxxxxxxxx, 6mm pear
a0000 41-409r  $00  step ferrule F1c and adjuster A9a not included, sold separately below

0b000 41-248r$23  41.6 x 44.3″ Ø1.2  throttle cable replica,  2-ends 5×7 barrel, 3×5 inline
0b000 41-248r  $00  has a remake large Magura adjuster, not small

0b0d0 41-249   n/a  61.0 x 64.3″ Ø1.5  rear brake original,  2-ends 6mm pear, 8×12 barrel

0b0d0 41-249r$24  61.0 x 64.3″ Ø1.5  rear brake replica,  2-ends 6mm pear, 8×12 barrel
0b0de 41-249r  $00  does not have Magura adjuster on upper end like the original does

0b0d0 41-250   $20  37.0 x 40.7″ Ø1.8  front brake original,  2-ends 6mm pear, 8×15 barrel

00c00 41-BR5r  $25  48.6 x 51.3″ Ø1.2  throttle cable replica, 2-ends 5×7 barrel, 3×5 inline
00c00 41-BR5r  $00  has a remake large Magura adjuster, not small

00c00 41-BR6r  $15  48.8 x 50.1″ Ø1.2  choke cable replica,   2-ends 5×7 barrel, 3×5 inline

00c00 41-BR7r  $15  43.5 x 47.2″ Ø1.5  front brake replica, x 2-ends 6mm pear, 8×15 barrel
0b0de 41-BR7r  $00  does not have Magura adjuster on upper end like the original does

00c00 41-BR8r  $25  67.5 x 70.8″ Ø1.5  rear brake replica, xx 2-ends 6mm pear, 8×12 barrel
0b0de 41-249r  $00  does not have Magura adjuster on upper end like the original does

00c00 41-BR9r  $10  45.5 x 54″    Ø1.5  start cable replica, xx 1-end  xxxxxxxxx, 6mm pear
a0000 41-409r  $00  step ferrule F1c and adjuster A9a not included, sold separately below

000de 41-286r$10  41.0 x 42.5″ Ø1.2  choke cable replica,  1-end  xxxxxxxxx, 3×5 inline
000de 41-286r  $00 pinch bolt P5 not included, sold separately

0000e 41-397   $29  37.0 x 40.1″ Ø1.8  front brake original,  2-ends 6mm pear, 6mm pear

0000e 41-397r  $24  37.0 x 40.1″ Ø1.5  front brake replica,  2-ends 6mm pear, 6mm pear
0b0de 41-397r  $00  does not have Magura adjuster on upper end like the original does

0000e 41-398   $33  61.0 x 64.1″ Ø1.8  rear brake original,  2-ends 6mm pear, 6mm pear

0000e 41-398r  $27  61.0 x 64.1″ Ø1.5  rear brake replica,  2-ends 6mm pear, 6mm pear
0b0de 41-398r  $00  does not have Magura adjuster on upper end like the original does

000de 41-434   n/a  38.5 x 41.2″ Ø1.2  throttle cable original  2-ends 5×7 barrel, 3×5 inline

000de 41-434r$21  39.0 x 41.7″ Ø1.2  throttle Trac 84565,  2-ends 5×7 barrel, 3×5 inline
0b0de 41-249r  $00  has a remake small Magura adjuster, same size as original

Batavus Cable Parts Sold Separately
abcde A9a     $7.00  Magura adjuster used small original (optional)
00000 A9b     $3.00  Magura adjuster large type replica (optional)
abc00 F1c 0   $1.50  step ferrule Ø5-Ø8 x 12 (for M48 start cable)
000de m56spr    $6  cable spring Ø6 x 35? (for M56 start cable)
0b0de P5-oooo    $2  pinch bolt Ø5.5 x 8  (for M56 choke cable)

 

 

 

Batavus throttle cable 41-248

41-248 and 41-405: These are very long throttle cables, for a moped, because the carburetor is below and behind the motor. They have a short Magura adjuster on top.

Substitute: The substitute cable has a different style of Magura adjuster at the top end.

 

 

Batavus choke cable 41-246

 

41-246 and 41-406: There is no adjuster on the choke cable. Instead there is a rubber boot (not shown) that keeps water and dirt from getting in.

 

 

 

Batavus start cable 41-247

41-247 and 41-409: These start cables are single ended, where the wire slides out, so the 5-8 step ferrule, and the Magura short adjuster are shown and sold separately. The upper inner wire end is held with a pinch bolt built into the black plastic Magura start lever. The adjuster is optional, since it is easy to adjust from the pinch screw.

 

 

Batavus front brake cable 41-250

41-250 and 41-407: These front brake cables have a 6mm 10-hex type adjuster on the bottom end, and a short Magura type adjuster on the top. The second adjuster on top is a convenience, so you can adjust it while riding.

Substitute: The substitute cable has no Magura adjuster at the top end.

 

 

Batavus rear brake cable 41-249

41-249 and 41-408: These rear brake cables have a 6mm 10-hex type adjuster on the bottom end, and a short Magura type adjuster on the top. The second adjuster on top is a convenience, so you can adjust it while riding.

Substitute: The substitute cable has no Magura adjuster at the top end.

 

 

batavus-regency-with-mags-front-brake-cable

Batavus front brake cable 41-397

41-397 and 41-398: These brake cables for mag wheel models have a “Ø6 pear” or “mushroom” on both ends, a 6mm 10-hex type bottom adjuster, and a short Magura type top adjuster. The top adjuster is a convenience, so you can adjust it while riding.

Substitute:  The substitute cable has no Magura adjuster. It has a similar but generic 6mm adjuster on the bottom end, at the wheel.

 

Batavus M56 throttle cable 41-434

41-434: It has a short Magura type adjuster on top.

Substitute: The 1981-84 Trac throttle cable is the substitute. It has a slightly different style of Magura adjuster. 

 

 

Batavus Regency choke cable

Batavus choke cable 41-286

41-286: This is a single ended cable. First the inner wire slides though a small brass choke plunger. Then a set screw holds it from the bottom end. Two tiny rubber o-rings go into grooves in the choke plunger. See Encarwi carburetors for that. At the top end, a 5 x 7mm pinch bolt, shown and sold separately, goes into a plastic thumb trigger in the right control. 

 

 


Derbi Cables

November 29, 2020

Derbi Cables 

US models: Here are listed 27 different cables, for Derbi mopeds sold new in the US from 1976 to 1989. Cables for bikes from other times and places may or may not be the same as these. 

Engine types: The engine types are abbreviated as pp (piston-ported), pr (pyramid-reed), fr (flat-reed).

Cables pass through frame: On sheet-frame Variant models, the throttle, decomp(start) and rear brake cables pass through the frame. That makes them never get pinched by the steering, but makes replacement more difficult. The little Derbi serviceman says “When replacing Variant cables that pass through the frame never pull out the old cable, without attaching the new cable to the end of it.” Otherwise it becomes ten times more difficult.

Leone cables: In the 1980’s there were high quality aftermarket cables made in Taiwan. In the list below they have non-Derbi part numbers beginning with CBL. 

 

 


’76-86 have Ideal-made throttles, 0° or 90° type

T H R O T T L E   C A B L E S 
Here are listed 7 different Derbi throttle cables. There are 3 throttles, 1976-80, 1980-86, 1987-90, abbreviated as Der 0°, Der 90°, and Domino. The Domino throttle is a sliding block type with a cable pinch bolt, so the throttle cable #6 and 7 inner wires are endless on top. The other two throttles are wrap-around type and take double-ended throttle cables #1 to 5. 

Curved pipe: The DS50 throttle cable does not have a curved metal pipe. It has a side-pull carb top instead, because of the low floor. Cables 4, 5 and 6 do not have a curved metal pipe because on those frames (C5, SLE-X and Variant Sport) it is not needed. There is enough room above the engine for the conduit to curve.

Conduit length:  A straight-pull (Der 0°) throttle requires a cable conduit 70 mm longer on top, compared to a side-pull (Der 90°). It has to curve gently around and come straight in. But a straight pull (Der 0°) throttle is on bikes with piston port engines. Those have carburetors 45 mm more forward  than bikes pyramid reed engines and side-pull (Der 90°) throttles. You can tell that by the position of the choke button in the center panel. The net difference is 70 minus 45. The ’76-82 Variant throttle cable conduit is 25 mm longer than the ’83-85 Variant conduit.   

C5 and RD50: The C-5 Diablo and RD50 models have wide off-road handlebars and so need longer cables. But the engine sits higher because the frame has a high ground clearance. So the two cables that go to the engine, throttle and decomp, are not much longer. The decomp cable is the same as Variant and the throttle cable is only 45 mm longer.

Laguna: The Laguna has narrow and low handlebars, and so requires shorter cables. The Laguna tubular frame is different than the Variant pressed sheet frame, so some cables can be routed differently. The Laguna decomp cable is 150 mm (5.9″) shorter than Variant.  The rear brake cable is 120 mm (4.7″) shorter. The front brake cable is 95 mm (3.7″) shorter. From these known length differences, the Laguna throttle cable is estimated to be 95 mm (3.7″) shorter.

 

#   E mm C 0 000.50.09.170  price 1976-80 Variant SL   engine  throttle  Vintage Cables
1  075 0985 a 000.50.09.170 none 1976-82 Var. SL, SLE, TT   pp Der 0°   original  use #1r
1a  75 0985 a 000. CBL-T100 $38 1976-82 Var. SL, SLE, TT    pp Der 0°   says Made in Taiwan
099 0890 a 000.43.09.170 none
1978-82 Sport Lagunapp, pr Der 90° orig. use #3r (longer)
3  099 0960 a 0A0.09.30.171 none 83-85 Variant SL, SLE xxxpr Der 90° original  use #3r

4  075 1030 a 000.28.09.170 none 78-82 C5 83-87 RD50  pp, pr Der 0°   original  use #4r
5  099 0935 a 0F0.09.00.171 none 1985-86 Variant SL, SLE    fr  Der 90° original  use #5r
6  115 0935 a 0A0.09.40.171 none 1987-89 Variant Sport xxfr  Domino orig. nylon-lined  use #6r
7  115 1100?  0E0.09.20.171 none 1987-89 DS50 Scooter x    fr  Domino orig. nylon-lined  use #7r
#   E mm C 0 000.50.09.170 
price      Modern Cables most are nylon-lined for low friction
1r
0
75 0985  000.50.09.170R $34 replacement for 1, nylon-lined 2-ended with pipe 2g and adjuster
1v   
75 0985  000.50.09.170V $22 replacement for 1, not lined, two-ended w/used orig. Derbi cable pipe

3r 099 0960  0A0.09.30.171R $34 replace for 2 and 3 nylon-lined 2-ended with pipe 2g and adjuster 
3v   99 0960  0A0.09.30.171V $22 replace for 2 and 3 not lined, two-ended w/used orig. Derbi cable pipe
4r
075 1030  000.28.09.170R $22 replacement for 4, nylon-lined, two-ended, no curved cable pipe

5r
099 0935  0F0.09.00.171R $22 replacement for 6, nylon-lined, two-ended, no curved cable pipe
6r
 115 0935  0A0.09.40.171R $12 replacement for 7, nylon-lined, one-ended, no curved cable pipe
7r
115 1130  0E0.09.20.171R $10 replacement for 8, nylon-lined, zero-ended, no pipe (can cut if too long)

 


F R O N T   B R A K E    C A B L E S
Here are listed 6 different Derbi front brake cables.
There were different styles, lengths C  and exposed lengths E.

Derbi or Domino: There were two kinds of hand brake controls. ’76-86 had Derbi type, chrome, welded to the handlebar. ’87-89 had Domino type, black clamp on with integrated CEV switches.

Exposed length E is about 12 mm longer for ’87-89 Derbi mopeds (Variant Sport and DS50), because their Domino lever mounts have slotted M6-threaded cable adjusters. ’76-86 Derbi mopeds with Derbi-made welded lever mounts have slotted cable stops instead of adjusters. Compare the E of #2 and #5 below. They’re 12 mm different.

 

# x E mm C 00 000.50.09.170  price 1976-80 Variant Sxx  controls   Vintage Cables
1x  100 0945a 000.82.09.230 $22  1976-86 Var. SL, SLE, TT
Derbi  original use #1a
1a  100 0945a 000. CBL-B100 none 1976-86 Var. SL, SLE, TT Derbi  says Made in Taiwan

2x  100 0910a 000.80.09.230 $24  1978-80 Var. SL, SLE, TT Derbi  original use #1 (longer)
3x  100 0850a 0D0.09.00.231 $24  1978-82 Laguna xxxxxx  Derbi  orig. use #1 (way longer)

4x  100 1100? 0A0.09.20.231 none 1978-87 C5, RD50 xxxx   Derbi  original
5x  112 0995a 0F0.09.00.231 none 1987-89 Variant Sport  Domino orig. nylon-lined
6x  112 1050? 0E0.09.20.231 none 1987-89 DS50 xxxxxx  Domino orig. nylon-lined

 


R E A R   B R A K E   C A B L E S
Here are listed 8 different Derbi rear brake cables. There were different styles, conduit lengths C  and exposed lengths E.

Derbi or Domino: There were two kinds of hand brake controls. ’76-86 had Derbi type, chrome, welded to the handlebar. ’87-89 had Domino type, black clamp on with integrated CEV switches.

Exposed length E is about 13 mm longer for ’87-89 Derbi mopeds (Variant Sport and DS50), because their Domino lever mounts have slotted M6-threaded cable adjusters. ’76-86 Derbi mopeds with Derbi-made welded lever mounts have slotted cable stops instead of adjusters. Compare the E and Eo of #4 and #7 below. Both are 13 mm different.

Anchor bar: 1976-82 Derbi SL, SLE and TT (piston ported) models can have two possible rear brake cables, depending on whether or not the bike has an “anchor bar”. It’s the bracket that attaches the brake plate and carries the braking force to near the swing-arm pivot. It’s purpose is to isolate the brake action from the suspension action. So going over bumps does not change the braking behavior. Mopeds generally do not have a anchor bar, but motorcycles generally do. The first Derbi models sold in the US 1976-78 did not have it, then they did 1979-80, then they did not again after 1980.

31 mm difference

Exposed length E is about 31 mm longer for ’76-82 Derbi mopeds (Variant SL, SLE, TT) with a brake anchor bar installed. This is a result of the cable stop being relocated farther away from the brake arm. The cable conduit stops at a tab with a 4.5 mm hole, located on the steel anchor bar, rather than a slotted and bottomed 6.5 mm hole in a tab on the aluminum brake plate. 

SL, SLE, TT rear brake cable with threaded rod,
is different for bikes with or without anchor bar

1979 with anchor bar

 

 

 

 

 

Service bulletin 2

 

 

Anchor bar upgrade kit: In 1980 they offered a Rear Brake Modification Kit which was an anchor bar, some hardware, and an anchor-bar-type brake cable 000.80.09.430, to replace the no-anchor-bar cable 000.82.09.430. The installation instructions are given in Service Bulletin 2 shown here.

Because of this you can’t say what rear brake cable is correct just from knowing the bike’s identity (make, model, year, ID number). You have to know whether it has a brake anchor bar installed or not.

 

Hand/foot brake plate
has M6 threaded hole

Hand or Foot Brake: ’78-82 Laguna and C5 Diablo models had a dual action rear brake, activated by either the left hand or the right foot. Unlike the other models, the brake plate had an M6 threaded hole and the cable had a non-removable threaded adjuster and spring.  

 

 

#   Eo   E mm C   end caps  .900…000999 price 1976-80 Variant SL  controls  Vintage Cables
1 096  181  1510  ∅7 ∅4/9 000.80.09.430  $27  ’78-80 SL SLE TT for bar Derbi  original, says nothing
1a 96  191  1510  ∅7 ∅4/9 000. CBL-B101  $24  ’78-80 SL SLE TT for bar Derbi  says Made in Taiwan

2 080  142  1510  ∅7 ∅7/0
000.82.09.430  $18  ’80-83 SL SLE TT  no bar Derbi  original
2a 90  152  1510  ∅7 ∅7/0 000.82.09.430  $18  ’76-78 SL SLE TT  no bar Derbi  original
3 072? 143? 1600? ∅7 ∅7/00A0.09.10.432  none ’83-87 RD50xxxx no bar Derbi  original
4 072  143  1525  ∅7 ∅7/0 0A0.09.70.431  $26  ’84-86 SL, SLE xx no bar Derbi  original

5 000  145  1390  ∅7 M6/  000.62.09.430  $29  ’78-82 Laguna foot/hand  Derbi  original
6 000  132  1550  ∅7 M6/  000.79.09.431  $29  ’78-82 C5 xxx  foot/handDerbi  original

7 086  156  1540  ∅7 ∅4/9 0A0.09.80.431  none ’86-89 V. Sp, SLE no bar Domino orig. lined, good-used
8 086? 156? 1590? ∅7 ∅4/9 0E0.09.10.451  none ’87-89 DS50  xxx no bar
Domino orig. nylon-lined

Others (imperfect alternatives)
2b
100 183 1450  $16  ∅7 upper, ∅7 lower for no bar, like #2 but with shorter conduit
1b 121 193 1460  $20  ∅7 upper, ∅4/9 lower for bar,   like #1 but with shorter conduit

 


D E C O M P   ( S T A R T )   C A B L E S
Here are listed 4 different Derbi decomp cables. The decompression cables for ’87-89 Domino controls have a smaller diameter (5.0 – 5.5 mm) upper end than the ones for ’76-86 Derbi controls (5.5 -6.0 mm). 

E mm C  000.00.00.000 price 1976-80 Variant SL, SL      controls  Vintage Cables
1x 42   735 
000.
82.09.400  $15  1976-87 SL SLE TT C5 RD50 Derbi  original, tarnished use #1a
1a 42   735  000. CBL-D100  $16
  1976-87 SL SLE TT C5 RD50 Derbi  says Made in Taiwan, fresh shiny
2x 42   585  0A0.09.00.401  $26 
1978-82 Sport Laguna x,x,x Derbi  original (only one) use #1 (longer)
3x 42   825  0A0.09.30.401  none 1987-89 Variant Sport  xx Domino  original (only one)
4x 42   ???  0E0.09.00.401  none 1987-89 DS50 Scooter xx Domino  original

 


C H O K E    C A B L E S
Here are listed 2 different Derbi choke cables. Only the flat-reed engine models ’86-89 had choke cables.

E mm C  000.00.00.000   price 1976-80 Variant SL, SL      controls  Vintage Cables
1
x 70   950   0F0.09.00.651 none  1986-89 Var. Sport, SLE-XDomino  original nylon-lined
2x 70 1120? 0E0.09.20.651 none  1987-89 DS50 Scooter xx Domino  original nylon-lined
E mm C  000.00.00.000   price      Modern Cables with nylon-lined conduit
1r 70   950 0F0.09.00.651R 
$12  replacement for 1, 2.8 x 37.4″  1-ended
2r 70 1150 0E0.09.20.651R  $12  replacement for 2, 2.8 x 45.3″ 1-ended (can cut conduit if too long)

 

 

 


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Service Info

Welcome. This cable section is for control cables, that slide back and forth, not speedometer cables, that rotate. For speedometer cables, see Parts/Frame/Speedometer

Single or Double Ended: Some control cable inner wires have two ends, and some have only one. The “end” is a round piece if metal, usually soldered onto the braided steel wire. When a cable inner wire has only one end, it can be removed from the conduit (or sleeve or housing). When a cable inner wire has a ball of lead at both ends, then it is permanently trapped and cannot be removed without cutting one end off.

Tri-Flow lubricant

Tri-Flow

Oil can

Squeeze type oil can

3-in-one oil

3-in-1 oil

Lubing Cables: Old cables become sticky from deteriorated oil and corrosion. A few drops of fresh thin oil is often all the cable needs to work good again, after a long period of sitting. Apply a few drops of oil or synthetic lubricant (preferably Tri Flow) onto the upper exposed inner wire so that it runs downhill into the cable. The bike is leaned over so that cable entrance is going down. The oil takes a few minutes to flow down the wire. Straighten out any kinks in the cable. Also lube the throttle, especially sliding block kinds, and the levers, where the lever pivots, and where the cable pivots.

 

Cable cutter

Cable cutter

Cable end wires bent into an umbrella before soldering

End wires bent
into an umbrella
before soldering

Soldering iron

Soldering iron

Cutting cables: The preferred tool is called a diagonal cutting pliers. It must be fairly new and sharp to cut braided steel cable inner wires and coiled steel cable outer conduits. Most of the inexpensive kinds do not stay sharp long. 

Configuring cables: A single ended “universal” cable is configured, or made into, a double ended “specific” cable. Any cutting of the sleeve, adding stop pieces, adapters or adjusters is done first. Then the cable is installed on the bike. Lastly, the top end piece is installed in the correct location on the wire. The wire strands are bent into an umbrella, and soldered. This is often necessary when ready-made cables are not available.