CEV Magnetos and Parts

CEV  Contents:

A. Parts Listed by Type

B. Parts Listed by Magneto

CEV#  years  pla    rotor stator
CEV#  years   plate   id x od  slots
  points

1. 60’s-70’s  7432⇒ 80 x 94  3+2 13035⇒ 
6034   early 60’s Guzzi 125cc
6054  early 70’s Garelli Brianza

6098     late 60’s unknown
6834  early 70’s Garelli 354 (US)
6852   early 70’s Bianchi Avanti (US)
6861   early 70’s Minarelli V1 (US)
6876     xxx 70’s Minarelli V1 (US)

2. 60’s-70’s  9611 80 x 94  3+2 ⇐13036 
6067   early 60’s Minarelli P3 
6068     xxx 60’s Minarelli P4

3. 60’s-70’s  7989⇒ 80 x 90   3    ?????⇒
6826     xxx 60’s Gilera 106, 107 (US)
6878     xxx 63 Moto Guzzi Stornello 125

4. 60’s-70’s12950 80 x 80   2  ⇐13036
6859   early 70’s Morini MO1 (US)

5. 70’s-80’s 13373  80 x 94  3+2 04221⇒ 
6917     late 70’s Moto Guzzi Dingo (UK)
6923     xxx 70’s Minarelli V1
6939     late 70’s Garelli Gulp (US)
6940     xxx 70’s Minarelli V1 (US)

6. 70’s-80’s 13373  80 x 94  3+2 ⇐04229 
6919    xxx 70’s Garelli
6938     xxx 70’s Demm

6948     xxx 70’s Minarelli P4
6952     late 70’s Rizzato (US)

7. 70’s-80’s 13471  80 x 80    2    04221⇒
6931    70’s-80’s Minarelli V1
6932    70’s-80’s Minarelli V1 (US)

8. 70’s-80’s 13471  80 x 80   2    ⇐04229
6420     late 80’s Morini M1 (US)
6933     late 70’s Garelli, Demm (US)
6949     late 70’s Sachs 504 (US)

T1. Tomos  13085  94 x 90  3+1 ⇐04229
6943     1988-91 Tomos A3 (US) 12V 50w
6951     1985-86 Tomos A3 (US) 6V 28/10w

T2. Tomos  13923  80 x 90  3+1 ⇐04229
6418     1986-88 Tomos A3 (US) 12V 28w
6436     1986-88 Tomos A3 (US) 12V 75w

 

 

 

 


A. Parts Listed by Type

 

 

C.E.V. electrical components are made in Italy since the 1920’s by Fratelli Pagani (Pagani Brothers). CEV lights, switches, speedometers, and magnetos are used on most 1970’s and 80’s European mopeds. C.E.V. is a trade mark that stands for Costruzioni Elettromeccaniche Venegonesi. English translation: Venegonese Electromechanical Constructions. Venegono Inferiore and Venegono Superiore are small municipalities within the Province of Varese in northern Italy. In the 2000’s CEV became part of ZADI.

CEV magnetos here are grouped in families. Magnetos in a family have the same rotation (anti-clockwise ⇐ or ⇒ clockwise), stator base plate, points and condenser, but different flywheels (for different engines) and different coils (for different lighting equipment).

CEV magneto number on the flywheel identifies both the flywheel and the stator.

Prices: bright green is new, dark green is good-used 

CEV points 1960’s-80’s have four versions.
2, 4. 00  13035 $26.0 points M18a
3. 0 000 13036 none  points M14a
5, 9. 00  04221 $16.0 points M18
6,7,8,10 04229 $16.0 points M14

CEV condensers 1960’s-80’s have two versions.
13694 $15.0 condenser early M32a Ø18×25, no flange
07365 $13.0 condenser (most) M17 Ø18×25 with flange

CEV base plates 1960’s-80’s have seven versions.
00 CEV#  price  rot plate wheel coils slots 
2. 0  07432 none   ⇒  Ø94  Ø80  45 3+2 slots M5
3. 0  09611 none   ⇐  Ø94  Ø80  45 3+2 slots M5
4. 0  07989 none   ⇒  Ø90  Ø80  45 3 slots

5, 6. 13373 $40.0   Ø94  Ø80  48 3+2 slots M4
7. 0  13085 $75.0   Ø90  Ø94  57 3+1 slots
8. 0  13923 none    Ø90  Ø80  48? 3+1 slots
9,10 13471 $58.0   Ø80  Ø80  48 2 slots M4

 

CEV source coils 1960’s-80’s have two sizes (for 80 or 94 mm i.d. flywheel), three types (ignition, ignition-spark or lighting). Lighting coils have several versions. Many are the same except for the wire length or color.

04277 none  ignition coil 48 Ø80 internal ground
04287 72-57ignition coil 48 Ø80 external ground: no wire   

04307 75-60ignition coil 48 Ø80 external ground: blue wire
04354 75-60ignition coil 48 Ø80 external ground: long blue
04359 none  ignition coil 57 Ø94 external ground: blue wire
04359 $65.0 substitute   57 Ø94 Ducati = Tomos 213733

04233 none  lighting coil 48 Ø80 6 volt 18 watt? black wire
04288 30-25lighting coil 48 Ø80 6 volt 28 watt: no wire
04308 $30.0 lighting coil 48 Ø80 6 volt 28 watt: black wire  
04355 $30.0 lighting coil 48 Ø80 6 volt 28 watt: long black
04360 $40.0 lighting coil 57 Ø94 6 volt 28 watt: yellow wire
04360 35-20 substitute   57 Ø94 Ducati = Tomos 213734

CEV flywheels (rotors) generally do not interchange because they can have different timing angles. The timing angles are 1) the angle between key groove and the high side center of the points cam, and 2) the angle between the four magnets and the key groove. The second timing angle is determined by the first and the rotation. 

Flywheel keys: The woodruff key groove in the flywheel can have three different widths, 2.0, 2.5, or 3.0 mm. 

Keyless installation: Flywheels with the same size and rotation can interchange if the flywheel is installed without the woodruff key, at the correct angle. ’70’s French mopeds Peugeot and Motobecane do not have woodruff keys. The key is more for convenience in servicing, rather than for preventing slippage.   

Sources: Most bike makers parts catalogs do not disclose the component makers part numbers. So much of this information was gathered from actual parts samples that came from known bike models. CEV part numbers came from a 1985 Marina Mobili Inc (MMI) price list and from the CEV section in their catalog-notebook. They were the biggest USA importer and distributor of CEV and other moped parts, independent of the bike brands. 

 

 

 

 


B. Parts Listed by Magneto

 

 

 

1.

1960’s-70’s CEV magnetos with
7432 base plate 80 x 94, 13035 points


CEV 6034 Moto Guzzi

1965 Guzzi Stornello 125 Sport

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 2 wires
black
= lights 6V 25w? 
red
= ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     internal? spark coil
3   1 $26.0 13035 points M18a x
7   1 $15.0 13694 condenser M32a
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots


CEV 6054 Garelli

1972 Garelli Brianza

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
orange
= lights 6V 25w? 
black
= ignition (points to coil)
blue
= external ignition ground

# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
3   1 $26.0 13035 points M18a x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 

 

 


CEV 6098

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 2 wires
black
= lights 6V 25w? 
red
= ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     internal spark coil
3   1 $26.0 13035 points M18a x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 


CEV 6834 Garelli 354

1968-70 Broncco TC-4, TS-4

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black
= lights 6V 25w? 
red
= ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
3   1 $26.0
13035 points M18a x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 


CEV 6852 Bianchi Avanti

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black
= lights 6V 25w? 
red
= ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
3   1 $26.0 13035 points M18a x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 


CEV 6861 Minarelli V1

1970-74 Cimatti Chic (some), City Bike,
1970-72
Fantic Broncco TX-7,
1974 Carabela Moto Pony 60


CEV 6861 with internal spark coil


CEV 6861 with external spark coil

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black
= lights 6V 25w? 
red
= ignition (points to coil)
light blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external or internal spark coil
3  1 $26.0 13035 points M18a
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

Superseded by 6940. For early to mid 1970’s Minarelli V1 with metal fan cover, 2 (not 3) cover base screws, 94mm 3-screw stator plate mounts. 

 


CEV 6876 Minarelli V1

1975-76 Carabela, Cimatti, others

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black
= lights 6V 23W
red
= ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil
1   1 none  F6876 flywheel (rotor) says 6876
1a 1 none  S6876 stator assembly
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
2a 1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
3   1 $26.0 13035 points M18a
4   1 none  00000 points adjustment cam
5   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer #8 x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
10 1
$2.00 12192 lubrication felt
12 1 none  13125 felt holder
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots
14 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot

For early to mid 1970’s Minarelli V1 with metal fan cover, 2 (not 3) cover base screws, 94mm 3-screw stator plate mounts. 

This aluminum flywheel has the same 80mm ID, but a bigger OD. It was superseded by 6940, with smaller OD. That is why there is room for a bigger flywheel on Minarelli V1 engine cases. A lot of older bikes had bigger flywheels.

 

2.

1960’s-70’s CEV magnetos with
9611 base plate 80 x 94, 13036 points


CEV 6067 Minarelli P3

late 50’s-60’s Gabbiano

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 2 wires
black
= lights 6V 25w? 
red
= ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     internal spark coil
3   1 none  13036 points M14a x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  09611 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 


CEV 6068 Minarelli P4

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 2 wires
black
= lights 6V 25w? 
red
= ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     internal spark coil
3   1 none  13036 points M14a x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  09611 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 

 

3.

1960’s-70’s CEV magnetos with
7989 base plate 80 x 90, 13035 points


CEV 6826 Gilera 106, 107

1965-68 Sears Allstate (Gilera) 106 SS

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 90, 3 screw slots, 3 wires
red
= lights 6V 25w? 
white
= ignition (points to coil)
green = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
3   1 none
 points without pivot post ?? x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  07989 stator plate bare

 


CEV 6878 Moto Guzzi Stornello

1963 Moto Guzzi Stornello 125

 

 

 

 

4.

1960’s-70’s CEV  magnetos with
12950 base plate 80 x 80, 13036 points


CEV 6859 Morini MO (early MO1)

1967-75 Italjet Kit Kat, others
1969-73? Aprilia Dary folding moped


CEV 6859 on Morini MO Gyromat, 1969 Italjet Kit Kat (US)

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 2.5 key
stator plate o.d. 80, 2 screw slots, 3 wires
black
= lights 6V 28/10w
red
= ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
4   1 none  13036 points M14a
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
10 1 none  12950 stator plate bare 80 x 80 2 slots

 

5.

1970’s-80’s CEV magnetos with
13373 base plate 80 x 94, 04221 points


CEV 6917 Moto Guzzi

late-70’s to 80’s Moto Guzzi Dingo (UK)

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black
= lights 6V 18w
red
= ignition (points to coil)

# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil 
1   1 none  F6917 flywheel (rotor) says 6917
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0
04221 points M18
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 none  04277 ignition coil copper wire
9   1 none  04233 lighting coil black wire
10 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots
11 1 none  S6917 stator assembly
12 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot

 


CEV 6923 Minarelli V1

1970’s non-US-model mopeds 

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black
= lights 6V 18w (15w head + 3w tail)
red
= ignition (points to coil)

# qty price  CEV#  internal spark coil 
1   1 none  F6923 flywheel (rotor) says 6923
4   1 $16.0 04221 points M18
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
10 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 


CEV 6939 Garelli VIP

1975-86 Garelli Gulp, VIP (vertical cylinder)

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 2.5 key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
yellow
= lights 6V 28/10w 
black
= ignition (points to coil)
blue
= external ignition ground

# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil
1   1
$120  F6939 flywheel (rotor) says 6939
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04221 points M18
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 72-57 04287 ignition coil copper and blue wires
9   1 30-25 04288 lighting coil yellow wire
10 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots
11 1 $180  S6939 stator assembly
12 1 $315  06939 magneto assembly
13 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot

These crack at the points cam when over tightened. The flywheel center is weak, because the center tapered hole is wide, and the key groove is located where the outer cam surface is low. There isn’t enough thickness there to handle a large tightening torque.

 


CEV 6940 Minarelli V1

1976-77 Carabela, Gitane, others

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black
= lights 6V 28/10w 
red
= ignition (points to coil)
blue
= external ignition ground

# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil
1   1 $110  F6940 flywheel (rotor) says 6940
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04221 points M18
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 75-60 04307 ignition coil copper and blue wires
9   1 $30.0 04308 lighting coil black wire
10 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots
11 1 $180  S6940 stator assembly
12 1 $295  06940 magneto assembly
13 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot

For early to mid 1970’s Minarelli V1 with metal fan cover, 2 (not 3) cover base screws, 94mm 3-screw stator plate mounts. 

 

6.

1970’s-80’s CEV  magnetos with
13373 base plate 80 x 94, 04229 points


CEV 6919 Garelli

1970’s non-US-model mopeds 

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black
= lights 6V 18w
red
= ignition (points to coil)

# qty price  CEV#  internal spark coil 
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
10 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare

 


CEV 6938

1970’s Demm 22 (Euro)

 

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 2.5 key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 23w
red
= ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     internal or external spark coil
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
10 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare

 


CEV 6948 Minarelli P4/P6

mid-1970’s  from Minarelli P4/P6 parts catalog

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black
= lights 6V 28/10W
red
= ignition (points to coil)
xxx # Minarelli# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil

00082 82.0021.9 1 none  06948 magneto complete
00821 82.0008.6 1 $16.0 04229 points M14
00823 82.0131.6 1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
00825 82.0182.6 1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt subst.
00826 82.0221.6 1 none  F6948 flywheel (rotor) says 6948
00828 82.0429.6 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare 80 x 94
00000 82.0027.6 1 $180  S6948 stator assembly
00972 07.0205.9 1 none  04277? ignition coil copper wire
00974 07.0118.6 1 none  04233? lighting coil black wire
49106 49.0619.9 4 $0.20 00000 lock washer M4
49170 49.0675.6 1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
49204 49.0814.6 2 $2.50 13061 pts/cond screw M4x9 sm.

49206 49.0816.6 4 $0.80 00000 coils screw M4 x 20 phil.

 


CEV 6952 Rizzato

1975-77 Rizzato Califfo (1-speed vertical cylinder)

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 2.5 key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black
= lights 6V 28/10W
red
= ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil
1   1
none  F6952 flywheel (rotor) says 6952
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 75-60 04307 ignition coil copper and blue wires
9   1 $30.0 04308 lighting coil black wire
10 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots
11 1 $180  S6952 stator assembly
12 1 none  06952 magneto assembly
13 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot

 

7.

1970’s-80’s CEV magnetos with
13471 base plate 80 x 80, 04221 points


CEV 6931 Minarelli V1

1970’s Many bike makes, Euro models

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 80, 2 screw slots, 3 wires
black
= lights 6V 18w (15w head + 3w tail)
red
= ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     internal spark coil
1   1 $90.0 04394 flywheel (rotor) says 6931 (= 6932)
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04221 points M18
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 none  00000 spark coil red wire and spark wire
9   1 none  04233? lighting coil
10 1 $58.0 13471 stator plate bare 80 x 80 2 slots
11 1 none  00000 stator assembly
12 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot

Same as 6932 except the coils. Flywheels are same except for markings.

 


CEV 6932 Minarelli V1

1977-89 Cimatti, Testi, other Italian makes
1978-85 General, Lazer, other Taiwan makes

CEV 6932 Magneto 80mm

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 80, 2 screw slots, 3 wires
black
= lights 6V 28/10w
red
= ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
1   1 $90.0 04212 flywheel (rotor) says 6932
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04221 points M18
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 75-60 04307 ignition coil blue and copper
9   1 $30.0 04308 lighting coil black wire
10 1 $58.0 13471 stator plate bare 80 x 80 2 slots
11 1 $190  04266 stator assembly
12 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot
13 1 $280  06932 magneto assembly

For late 1970’s to late 1980’s Minarelli V1 with plastic fan cover, 3 (not 2) cover base screws, 80mm 2-screw stator plate mounts. 

 

 

8.

1970’s-80’s CEV  magnetos with
13471 base plate 80 x 80, 04229 points


CEV 6420 Morini M1

1985-90 Motomarina Sebring (1-speed case reed)

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 2.5 key
stator plate o.d. 80, 2 screw slots, 3 wires
black
= lights 6V 28/10w
red
= ignition (points to coil)

green = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
10 1 $58.0 13471 stator plate bare 80 x 80 2-slot

US-model Morini moped engines first had Dansi 1976-79 (MO1 and MO2), then Dansi or Bosch, 1978-84 (M1), then CEV magnetos in 1985-90 (M1), approximately.

 


CEV 6933 Garelli, Demm (horizontal cylinder)

1975-86 Garelli Eureka, Sport, Gran Sport
Rally Sport, Super Sport, Basic (H1 or H2 engine)
1976-79 Demm Smily, Scout

CEV 6933 Stator

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 2.0 key
stator plate o.d. 80, 2 screw slots, 3 wires
yellow
= lights 6V 28/10w
black
= ignition (points to coil)

blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
1   1 $90.0 04271 flywheel (rotor) says 6933
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 75-60 04307 ignition coil blue and copper
9   1 $30.0 04308 lighting coil yellow wire
10 1 $58.0 13471 stator plate bare 80 x 80 2 slots
11 1 $190  04272 stator assembly
12 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot
13 1 $280  06933 magneto assembly 6933

 


CEV 6949 Sachs 504/1 

1975-79 KTM Foxi Deluxe

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M22-1.5 puller, 2.0 key
stator plate o.d. 80, 2 screw slots, 3 wires
yellow
= lights 6V 28/10w
black
= ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
1   1 $100  F6949 flywheel (rotor) says 6949
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 72-57 04287 ignition coil blue and copper
9   1 30-25 04288 lighting coil yellow wire
10 1 $58.0 13471 stator plate bare 80 x 80 2 slots
11 1 $190  04272 stator assembly
12 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot
13 1 $290  06933 magneto assembly 6933

Most other 70’s mopeds with Sachs 504 engines have Bosch or Motoplat magnetos.

 

T1.

Ducati clone CEV magnetos with
13085 base plate 90 x 90, 04229 points


CEV 6943 Tomos A3

1989-91 Tomos Golden Bullet, TTLX (some)

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 94, M26-1.5 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 90, 3+1 screw slots, 3 wires
yellow
= lights 12V 50w (external regulator)
black
= ignition (points to coil)

# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil
1   1 $95.0 04351 flywheel (rotor) (says 6943),
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17

CEV 6943 was a replacement part for Iskra 1215, and was also on some bikes, perhaps when Iskra was unavailable. It was not in any late 1980’s Tomos USA parts manual.

 


CEV 6951 Tomos A3

1985-86 Tomos A3 Bullet (vin codes 01, 02)
Silver Bullet (04, 05, 07, 08, 09), Golden Bullet (11)

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 94, M26-1.5 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 90, 3+1 screw slots, 3 wires
yellow
= lights 6V 28/10w
black
= ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground

# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil
1   1 $110  04351 flywheel (rotor) (says 6951),
2   2 $2.50 13061 small head screw M4x10
3   1 $0.80 13494 points washer 4
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   1 $2.00 12192 lubrication felt
7   1 none  13125 felt holder
8   4 $0.50 13514 coils screw M4x22
9   1 none  04359 ignition coil 57 Ø94 blue & copper
9   1 $65.0 Ducati substitute Tomos 213733
10 1 $40.0 04360 lights coil 57 Ø94 yellow wire
10 1 35-20 Ducati substitute Tomos 213734
11 1 $75.0 13085 stator plate bare (says 13085)
1
2 1 $185  04358 stator assembly
13 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4x12 slot
14 1 $295  06951 magneto assembly 6951

All of the separate parts of the CEV 6951 magneto interchange with Ducati, except for the felt and felt holder. So they have the same Tomos part numbers as Ducati.

 

T2.

1970’s-80’s CEV magnetos with
13923 base plate 80 x 90, 04229 points


CEV 6418 Tomos A3

1986-88 Tomos A3 Bullet (VIN code 12)
1986-88 A3 Bullet TT (14), A3-01 Bullet (20)

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 90, 3 screw slots, 3 wires
yellow
= lights 12V 28w
black
= ignition (points to coil)

blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
7   1 $16.0 04229 points M14 
8   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
26 1 none  13923 stator plate bare 80 x 90 3-slot
See Tomos A3 Engine Parts for full parts list.

During 1986 Tomos transitioned from CEV to Iskra (Yugoslavian-made Bosch-compatible) magnetos, but nothing else changed. The Golden Bullet still had a 75 watt 2-wire magneto with internal ignition ground, and an external solid state voltage regulator. The Bullet still had a 28 watt (later 50) 3-wire magneto with external ignition ground, and no external voltage regulator.

 


CEV 6436 Tomos A3 

1986-88 Tomos Golden Bullet (13), Golden Bullet TT (19)

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 90, 3 screw slots, 3 wires
yellow
= lights 12V 75w external regulator
black
= ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
7   1 $16.0 04229 points M14 
8   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
26 1 none  13923 stator plate bare 80 x 90 3+1 slot

See Tomos A3 Engine Parts for full parts list.

Besides the bottom lighting coil there is an additional thin lighting coil on top, wired in series. The top ignition source coil is thinner, to make room for the additional lighting coil.

1986 was the debut of solid-state voltage regulation, where all the lights are powered by one generator wire. This eliminated the need for multiple lighting output wires and source coils. The generator makes enough watts for all the lights to be on at once. But most of the time some of the lights are turned off. Then the extra watts are absorbed by the regulator, and “wasted” by warming up the frame. So the lights always stay the same brightness, no matter how many are on or off. No more external ignition ground means the engine never looses spark because of the lights, like pre-1987 Tomos.