Myrons Mopeds

Indian AMI-50 Chief Frame Parts

Continued from Indian Engine Parts

  7. Controls, Cables
  8. Fork and Fender
  9. Front Wheel
10. Rear Wheel
11. Frame Body
12. Seat and Rack
13. Exhaust, Swing Arm
14. Shocks, Pedals, Stand
15. Chain, Covers, Air Filter
16. Speedo, Head light, Battery
17. Tail Light, Turn Signals

 

 

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Section 7 – Controls, Cables and Handlebar

Two types of Indian moped controls were original equipment, here called Type A and Type B. They both have the same wires and brake levers (which can be silver or black). Cables for both control types are the same.

Type A (1978-80) has silver lettering and includes a built-in Indian-type start lever. There is a threaded hole for a choke lever mount in the right control. A handlebar-mounted choke lever was used on Mikuni (cable-choke) carburetor versions. A remote choke lever was not used on Tillotson and Keihin (lever-choke) carburetor versions. Type A controls had silver or black brake levers.

Type B (1980-81) has orange lettering and a separate clamp-on Lazer-type start lever. There is no threaded hole in the left control housing to attach a Type A start lever. Type B controls had silver brake levers. Unlike most motorcycles, black came before silver.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

#B Start Lever Substitute The type B substitute clamp-on start lever is a black metal BMX brake lever, item 16. This is also a substitute choke lever shown in Magura controls.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Threads: The 5 mm metric screws and nuts in these controls have pre-1970 JIS (Japan Industry Standard) coarse threads, M5-0.9 instead of M5-0.8 standard metric. 

Illustration: The controls section 7 illustration in the Indian parts manuals is poor and incorrect. It is for 1977 Lazer (Her Chee) type controls. Here the controls illustration is from an Angel (TYM) parts manual, corrected and colorized.

A, B after item number means the controls type A or B that item is for
a, b, c etc. after item # means different versions of that one item

# qty price  Indian part#  description
u1A 1 none   C420-00-50 R control assembly
u1B 1 none   C420-10-50 R control assembly
u2A 1 none   D435-00-50 R housing/switches
u2B 1 none   D435-10-50 R housing/switches
uu3 1 $19.0 C311-00-50 throttle twist tube
u4A 1 none   C310-00-50 R waffle grip 25id x 103
u4B 1 none   C310-10-50 R ribbed grip 25id x 103
u04 1 $11.0 generic set   R+L ribbed grips 105 mm
05a 1 $28.0 C210-00-50 R brake lever black 78-80
05b 1 $14.0 C210-10-50 R brake lever silver 80-81
08a 2 $1.50 H652-50-50 rear screw M5-0.9 x 25
08b 2 $1.50 H653-50-50 front screw M5-0.9 x 30
u09 7 $0.25 H105-00-50 lock washer M5
11a 3 $1.50 H652-50-50 lever screw M5-0.9 x 25
11b 3 $6.00 H652-60-50 lever sleeve Ø5 Ø6×11.8
11c 3 $4.00 H652-subst. replaces 11a, 11b, 9, 13 
12A 1 $12.0 D440-10-50 start lever mount
u13 3 $1.00 H205-00-50 lever screw nut M5-0.9
14A 1 $90.0 D439-00-50 L housing/switches
14B 1 $95.0 D439-10-50 L housing/switches
15A 1 none   C309-00-50 L waffle grip 22id x 103
15B 1 none   C309-10-50 L ribbed grip 22id x 103
15B 1 $3.00 C309-10sub L ribbed grip 22id x 100
16B 1 none   C230-00-50 clamp-on start lever
16B 1 $10.0 C230-subst. substitute start lever
16A 1 none   C230-00-15 start lever blade only
17A 1 $3.00 D440-20-50 start screw M5-0.9×10
18A 1 $3.00 D440-30-50 start screw M4 x 8
21a 1 $19.0 C220-00-50 L brake lever black used 78-80
21b 1 $14.0 C220-10-50 L brake lever silver 80-81
23a 1 none   C510-00-50 L mirror screw-in M8-1.25
23b 1 $15.0 56-9808 L/R mirror screw-in chrome
u24 1 none   C410-01-50 handle bar with holes
25A 1 none   C430-00-50 L control assembly
25B 1 none   C430-10-50 L control assembly

for bikes with Mikuni carbs:
u30 1 $12.0 C114-0?-50 choke lever
u31 1 $3.00 C114-1?-50 choke wave washer
u32 1 $3.00 C114-2?-50 choke wide washer
u33 1 $3.00 C114-3?-50 choke lever screw
u34 1 $7.00 C114-4?-50 choke cable stop

Front brake cable 
07a $32  C110-00-50 front brake cable original silver
07a $0041.4″ total = 2.0 + 3.1 + 36.3
07b $28 C110-00sub replacement cable black
07c 0$2 nut
07d 0$2 barrel
07e 0$7 spring

Throttle cable for Tillotson carb only (1-ended)
10a none C112-00-50 throttle cable original silver
10a $00  40.0″ total = 11 + 29
10b $10  C112-00sub replacement cable bare gray
10c   $7  C112-0.pipe cable curved pipe dark plated

 

Throttle cable for Keihin or Mikuni  (2-ended)
10d $42  C112-20-50 throttle cable original silver
10a $00  40.6″ total = 2.6 + 34.5 + 3.5
10e $27  C112-20sub replacement cable gray
107 $26  C112-20sub replacement cable black

 

Rear brake cable 
20a none C111-00-50 rear brake cable original silver
20a $00  64.5″ total = 2.0 + 3.2 + 59.3
20b $38  C111-00sub replacement cable black

 

Start (decomp) cable (1-ended)
27a none C113-00-50 start cable original silver
27a $00  42.0″ total = 5 + 37
27b $11  C113-00sub replacement cable bare gray
27d 0$2 step ferrule 4 x 7
u28 1 $3 C230-10-50? start cable boot
u29 1 $2 C230-20-50? start cable pinch bolt 6 x 10

Choke cable for Mikuni carb only (2-ended)
35a $25  C114-00-50 choke cable original silver
35a $00  37.5″ total = 1.3 + 36.2
35b $21  C114-00sub replacement cable gray

 

1978 throttle cable stop for Tillotson carburetor is on the lower cable tray mount, hidden when the cable tray is installed.

 

 

Taiwan Integrated Controls: The lever mounts/housings are also the electrical switch mounts, so these are “integrated” controls. That means the switches and buttons are part of the control housing, and were never sold separately. Indian controls share many things in common with General controls. They look the same. Two main things are different. 1) General controls have bottomless cable holes with threads (made for adjusters), while Indian controls have thread-less cable holes with bottoms (made for no adjusters). This means Indian and General  brake cables have different “exposed lengths”. Indian inner wires stick out 1″ less. 2) General controls have wires with multi-pin connector plugs, while Indian controls have individual bullet connectors.

Substitute Controls: To use General controls on an Indian two things have to change.
1. Cable or Cable Hole: Either A) the control has to be modified with a M8-1.25 threaded slotted bottom-plug, and the threads slightly drilled to become smooth (made ready for a no-adjuster cable), or B) the no-adjuster brake cable has to be changed to an adjuster type, with 1″ longer exposed length, and an M8-1.25 slotted adjuster added. The easy way to do that is to add a 1″ metal tube onto the threaded rod at the wheel end. The difficult way is to cut off the upper “ball” end and solder on a new one 1″ closer to the conduit.
2. Wire Connectors: The multi-pin plug has to be cut off, and individual male bullet connectors installed onto the wires. Some wire colors are different. On those colored tape or written labels need to be attached, to make the “General” wires (left – yellow, black, light green, right – light blue, brown, orange, red) become “Indian” ones (left – yellow, gray, purple, right – light blue, brown, orange, blue). 

3. Choke lever for Mikuni Carb: Only only some of the black General right controls have threads for a choke lever. So not all would work for an Indian with Mikuni, without drilling and re-threading. Most of the silver General right controls have choke lever threads.
4. Start lever: Only some of the silver General left controls have mount holes for the start lever mount. So not all of those work for Indian, without drilling.

Indian Brake Levers: They’re the same as General, Honda Express and other Taiwan mopeds (but not 70’s Lazer). 

Special Threads: Screws on Indian controls have special coarse thread M5-0.9 instead of M5-0.8. This was the pre-1970’s Japan Industry Standard (JIS) for 5mm screws. If you ever had a 1960’s Honda or Yamaha you might know this. After about 1969 JIS changed to normal M5-0.8. So Indian and other 1970’s Taiwan controls might be remakes of unknown 1960’s Japanese controls.  

Handlebar Holes: Indian control switch wires run through the inside of the handlebar, but not the brake light switch wires. The handlebar has seven holes: 1 – bottom slot where all wires exit, 2 – small side holes for turn signal wires, 2 – top holes for control wires, and 2 – top small holes for control locating pegs.

Control wire slots: General-type Taiwan moped controls, made for external switch wires, have wire slots that look like “mouse holes”, to let the wires out. Indian controls do not, but slots can be cut with a Dremmel or disk grinder. 

 

 

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Section 8 – Front fork and fender

Fork lock keys: Some missing keys can be purchased by the key number on the lock. Here are shown five types of Taiwan moped fork locks and keys. Indian key blanks are vintage Honda HD57 or Yamaha YH38. 

General key #’s 7650-7689 (0000)  and 7750-7789
Indian key  #’s  5540-5546 (HD57) and 7540-7546 (YH38)

 

 # qty price  Indian part#  description
u01 1 $25.0 F120-00-50 fork top yoke
u02 4 $0.60 H483-50-50 hex bolt M8 x 35
u03 4 $0.20 H108-00-50 washer M8
u04 2 none   H410-31-50? hex chrome domed M10-1.25×35
u05 2 $2.00 H110-00-50 thick washer Ø10 Ø25 x 3.2
u06 2 none   F152-00-50 oil filler seal
u07 1 none   H410-30-50 hex bolt chrome M10-1.25 x 30
u08 1 $2.00  H110-00-50 thick washer Ø10 Ø25 x 3.2
09a 1 $30.0 F125-00-50 steering tube-yoke A
09b 1 none   F125-00-50 steering tube-yoke B
10a 1 none   F145-10-50 L HL bracket chrome used
10b 1 none   F145-20-50 R HL bracket chrome used
u11 2 none   F146-00-50 reflector black rim Cateye RR-210
11a 2 $5.00 F146-subst. reflector white rim Cateye RR-210
u12 2 $8.00 F147-00-50 reflector grommet
u13 2 $4.00 F148-00-50 outer chrome ring Ø24 Ø37 x 5
u14 2 $4.00 F149-00-50 inner rubber seal Ø24 Ø35 x 4
15a 1 none   F140-00-50 lock A for fork A, no switch
15b 1 none   F140-10-50 lock B for fork B, with switch
16a 2 none   F141-00-50 key for A #241, 242, 243, or 244
16b 2 some   F141-10-50 key for B #5540-5546, 5740-5746
16c 2 some   F141-sub-B key (General) #7600-7799
u17 2 $1.50 H661-20-50 flat (sunk) phillips screw M6 x 10
u18 1 none   D310-00-50 horn 6VDC red=male purp=fem
18a 1 $35-25 D310-subst. horn 6VDC red=male green=fem
u19 2 $0.60 H660-90-50 phillips bolt M6 x 9(10) 
u20 2 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u21 2 $0.30 H206-00-50 nut M6
u22 2 $14.0 F155-00-50 fork boot (each)
u23 2 $2.00 F156-00-50 fork seal clip ring
u24 2 none   F157-00-50 fork seal 24x33x10.5

u25 2 none   F159-00-50 fork seal washer
u26 2 none   F158-00-50 outer tube bushing
u27 2 none   F130-00-50 fork tube inner/upper
u28 2 none   F133-00-50 fork plunger pin
u29 1 none   F131-20-50 fork outer tube right
29a 1 none   F131-10-50 fork outer tube left
u30 4 $0.80 H481-20-50 hex bolt M8 x 12
u31 4 $0.25 H108-00-50 lock washer M8
u32 1 none   F167-00-50 steering lock nut M24-1.0
u33 1 none   F168-00-50 fork upper race M24-1.0
34 22 $2.00 F169-00-50 22 upper balls 5/32″
34 22 $2.00 F169-00-50 22 lower balls 5/32″

u35 1 none   F170-00-50 frame race (cup) upper Ø30
u36 1 none   F171-00-50 frame race (cup) lower Ø30 
u37 1 none   F172-00-50 fork race Ø27.0 Ø38.35 x 7.2
u38 1 none   F211-01-50 front fender
u39 2 $0.60 H660-90-50 phillips bolt M6 x 9(10)
u40 2 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u41 2 $0.30 H206-00-50 nut M6
u42 2 none   F132-00-50 fork spring
u43 2 none   F160-00-50 handlebar clamp
u44 1 none   F110-00-50 fork type A (some 1978)
44u 1 $130. F110-01-50 fork type B (most 78-81)

 

True Hydraulic: The Indian front suspension is hydraulic (oil-dampened) for a smooth ride. Each 24mm outer diameter fork tube holds a maximum of 3 ounces of 20W fork oil.

Fork Types: (from 1981 Service Manual) There are two fork types, denoted by the series letter on VIN digit 8. Series A,B,C,E have “type B” fork. Series D,F,G units have “type A” fork.
The first Indians made in 1978 had the type A cast iron fork yoke. It was made for the type A fork lock F140-00-50, which did not have an electrical switch. That fork lock had the lock pin in between the mounting screws. The type A yoke for that can be identified by the 3 holes in a row where the fork lock goes. Those early Indians had a battery minus wire with an eyelet connector, that was always grounded to the frame. But anyone could turn on the signals, light up the brake light, or beep the horn. So Indian decided to change the fork lock to one that had a battery off and ignition off switch. The only fork lock they could find had different mounting screws. So they had to make a different fork yoke, type B for the type B fork lock F140-00-50 with electrical switch. That type B fork yoke can be identified by the 3 holes in a triangle where the fork lock goes. 

 

 

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Sect. 9 – Front Wheel Spoke, Sport Mag II (sm2), or Mira
  # qty price  Indian part#  description
m00 1 none   W100-00-50 F spoke wheel bare, orig 1.3 rim
0 0s 1 none   W100-10-50 F sm2 wheel bare black, 1.6 rim
0 0s 1 $100. W100-10-50 F sm2 wheel bare silver, 1.6 rim
00m 1 $100. W100-20-50 F Mira wheel assy silver, 1.6 rim
m01 2 $3.00 W121-00-50 coil spring for spoke
0 1s 1 $5.00  A121-00-50 “U” spring for sm2
01m 2 none   W121-10-50 coil spring for Mira
m02 1 $32.0 W122-00-50 brake shoes 90 x 20 090203
0 2s 1 none  W122-10-50 brake shoes 090204 U-spring
02m 1 $29.0 W122-20-50 brake shoes 100 x 20 100201
m03 1 none   W123-00-50 front brake panel bare for Ø90 
03m 1 none   W123-10-50 front panel bare Mira  for Ø100 
m04 1 $12.0 W110-00-50 front axle M12-1.25 x 158
m05 2 $1.00 H112-00-50 axle washer M12
m06 1 $38.0 W112-00-50 speedo driver M11-1.00
m07 1 $40.0 W117-00-50 front hub bare 32H Ø90
m08 1 none   W118-00-50 front center spacer Ø13 Ø18 49.0
0 8s 1 none    A118-00-50 front center spacer sm2 Ø13 Ø19 49.4
m9 16 $2.50 W142-00-50 inner spoke 12g 172 Ø2.9-0.55 176
 10 16 none   W141-00-50 outer spoke 12g 172 Ø2.9-0.55 176
m12 2 $7.00 W215-00-50 bearing 6201Z 12x32x10 1-shield
M13 2 $3.00 W216-10-50 seal ring 18.5×31.5
 13s 2 $3.00  A216-10-50 seal ring sm2 19.5×31.5
m14 1  W235-00-50 tire 2.25-17
m15 1  W236-00-50 tube 2.25-17
m16 1 $1.50 W120-00-50 rim strip for 2.25-17
m17 1 none   W119-00-50 outer rim only 32 hole
m21 1 $1.00 H112-00-50 washer M12
m22 1 $2.00 H212-00-50 axle nut 12-1.25

m23 1 $21.0 W135-00-50 brake cam shaft
23m 1 none   W135-10-50 cam shaft Mira
m24 1 $0.30 H206-00-50 brake arm nut M6
m25 1 $0.25 H106-00-50 brake lock washer M6
m26 1 $20.0 W131-00-50 brake arm, used rusty
m26 1 $25.0 W131-00sub brake arm, General modified
26m 1 none   W131-10-50 brake arm Mira
m27 1 $1.00 H463-00-50 brake arm hex bolt M6 x 30
m28 2 none   W128-00-50 front inspection cap
28m 1 none   W128-10-50 inspection cap Mira
m29 1 none   W124-00-50 front panel assy Ø90
29m 1 none   W124-10-50 front panel assy Mira

mxx 1 $100. A912-01-50 sm2 fr. wheel silver used, 1.6 rim
mxx 1 $250. WHL-B200  sm2 wheel set bare black, 1.6 rim
mxx 1 none   WHL-S100  sm2 wheel set bare silver, 1.6 rim
mxx 1 none   W100W200 spoke wheel set bare, original 1.3 rim

Yuan Ta: Indian spoke wheel hubs and brake plates were made by Yuan Ta. That name is in the cast aluminum. The same Yuan Ta 90mm hubs are also used on AMS and Trac (Dailim) mopeds. Most Indian brake panels say “Yuan Ta”, but some say “AMI50”.

Replacement Spoke Wheels: The 32 hole 17″ chrome rims say “KI 2.00×17”. This is the recommended tire size, but 2.25 is what they come with. The inner rim width is 1.30, thinner than the  mag wheel width of 1.60 inch. They are sold bare, without axles, axle spacers and brake plates.

 

Sm2 and Spoke Interchange: The brake and axle parts are the same on the Sport Mag II and spoke wheels, except the horse shoe spring is for sm2, and dual coil springs are for spoke wheel. That is because the Sm2 wheel center is thicker, and would rub on coil springs. The original brake shoes were the same, except the spring holes are bigger for the horse shoe spring. The horse shoe spring is more difficult to install, but leaves room for a bigger, stronger hub center section. When coil springs rub against the rotating center section they “sing” or “zing” like a violin. The cure is a horse shoe spring.

No Sm2 shoes: One issue with the EBC 913 modern replacement brake shoe is the spring holes are fine for the coil springs they are made for, but are not surrounded by enough aluminum to be drilled bigger for a thick U-spring. That is why there is currently no replacement for Sport Mag II brake shoes. Either the spring ends have to be ground smaller, or the holes have to be drilled wider, or some of both. But then there could be failures, if there is not enough strength left.

USA-made: Indian 17″ mag wheels were made by Sport Mag II in Placentia, California USA, near Myrons Mopeds. On the wheels that come on the bikes, no markings are in the cast aluminum, but “1.60 x 17” and “DOT” are stamped on the rim. The mags were made in natural silver or coated black with silver trim. The same mags were also sold as accessories for upgrading a spoke wheel to mag. Those say “1.60×17 Sport Mag II   DOT-N” and the date (this one 5 80 means May 1980) in the casting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sprocket Centering Lip: Left, a Yuan Ta rear hub, showing the 42.0mm centering ridge for the sprocket. Right, a Sport Mag II rear wheel, also with a 42.0 mm center hole lip. This lip keeps the sprocket centered, running smooth, and makes the bolts last long and not come loose. European moped sprocket centering holes are 39.5 or 42.5, too small to fit, or too big to stay centered.

 

These are the parts needed to upgrade your original Indian spoke wheels to Sport Mag II solid aluminum wheels. The mag center spacers are a hair longer. They’re also thicker so 4 inner dust shields are provided with slightly bigger center holes, 19.5mm ID and 31.5mm OD. Here are the center spacer specs:

W218-00-50 center spacer rear  spoke Ø13Ø18 x 66.1
W118-00-50 center spacer front spoke Ø13Ø18 x 49.0
A218-00-50  center spacer rear  mag   Ø13Ø19 x 66.4
A118-00-50  center spacer front mag   Ø13Ø19 x 49.4

 

Also in the kit are two horseshoe style brake springs, to replace the coil ones after drilling the (original, not modern EBC613) brake shoe spring holes bigger. Also four 5/16-18 by 3/4 long sprocket bolts thread into the American made aluminum. There once was an instruction sheet but that has been lost.

 

 

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Sect. 10 – Rear Wheel  Spoke, Sport Mag II (sm2), or Mira
  # qty price  Indian part#  description
m00 1 $100. W200-00-50 R spoke wheel bare, orig 1.3 rim
0 0s 1 none   W200-10-50 R sm2 wheel bare black, 1.6 rim
0 0s 1 none   W200-10-50 R sm2 wheel bare silver, 1.6 rim
00m 1 none   W200-20-50 R Mira wheel bare silver, 1.6 rim
m01 2 $3.00 W121-00-50 coil spring for spoke
0 1s 1 $5.00  A121-00-50 “U” spring for sm2
01m 2 none   W121-10-50 coil spring for Mira
m02 1 $32.0 W122-00-50 brake shoes 90 x 20 090203
0 2s 1 none  W122-10-50 brake shoes 090204 U-spring
02m 1 $29.0 W122-20-50 brake shoes 100 x 20 100201
m03 1 none   W221-00-50 rear brake panel bare for Ø90 
03m 1 none   W221-10-50 rear panel bare Mira  for Ø100 
m04 4 $0.60 H484-00-50 sprocket hex bolt M8 x 40
m05 1 $20.0 W210-00-50 rear axle M12-1.25 x 168
m06 1 $40.0 W217-02-52 rear hub bare 32H Ø90
m07 4 $0.60 H484-00-50 sprocket nut M8 
u0 8 1 $2.00 W212-00-50 sprocket lock plate
m09 1 $10.0 W218-00-50 rear center spacer Ø13 Ø18 66.0
 09s 1 none    A218-00-50 rear center spacer sm2 Ø13 Ø19 66.4
m10 1 none   W213-00-50 rear sprocket 30T, Ø42.0, 4 x 62.0
10m 1 none   W213-28-50 sprocket Mira 28T, Ø42.0, 4 x 62.0
m11 1 none   W214-00-50 axle spacer Ø13 Ø18 17?
m12 2 $7.00 W215-00-50 bearing 6201Z 12x32x10 1-shield

m13 2 $3.00 W216-10-50 seal ring 18.5×31.5
 13s 2 $3.00  A216-10-50 seal ring sm2 19.5×31.5
m14 1  W235-00-50 tire 2.25-17
m15 1  W236-00-50 tube 2.25-17
m16 1 $1.50 W120-00-50 rim strip for 2.25-17
m17 1 none   W119-00-50 outer rim only 32 hole 1.60 x 17
 18 16 $2.50 W142-00-50 inner 83° spoke 12g 172 Ø2.9-0.55 176
 19 16 none   W141-00-50 outer 90° spoke 12g 172 Ø2.9-0.55 176
m20 2 none   W222-00-50 rear inspection cap
20m 1 none   W128-10-50 inspection cap Mira
m21 1 $1.00 H112-00-50 washer M12
m22 1 $2.00 H212-00-50 axle nut 12-1.25
m23 1 $21.0 W135-00-50 brake cam shaft
23m 1 none   W135-10-50 cam shaft Mira
m24 1 $0.30 H206-00-50 brake arm nut M6
m25 1 $0.25 H106-00-50 brake lock washer M6
m26 1 $20.0 W131-00-50 brake arm, used rusty
m26 1 $25.0 W131-00sub brake arm, General modified
26m 1 none   W131-10-50 brake arm Mira
m27 1 $1.00 H463-00-50 brake arm hex bolt M6 x 30 

 

 

 

Brakes: In the above right photo, at left are 100mm brakes, at right are 90mm ones. The 100mm brakes are for the 1980-81 Mira snowflake style aluminum wheels. At bottom right is an installed horse shoe brake spring. Above that are dual coil springs installed. The coil springs make it easier to put the brake shoes onto the panel: “fold the taco into a tortilla”. See Service Dept.

Sprockets: Indian front sprockets fit on many small Honda models, like early Honda 90, but not early Honda 50. They have 6 splines, 17mm inner by 20mm outer diameter. Indian rear sprockets have a 42.0mm centering hole with four 8.5mm bolt holes, spaced 62mm apart, center to center.   

 

 

 

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Section 11 – Frame body

Gas cap keys: The Indian gas cap keys 241 to 250 can be copied with a common BN7 key blank. Keys 351 to 360 are different, also one-sided but with two grooves instead of one. Keys 321 to 330 are unknown type.

 

 

 

 # qty price  Indian part#  description
01a 1 none   F200-66-50 frame Black
01b 1 none   F200-67-50 frame Silver grey
01c 1 none   F200-68-50 frame Burgundy
01d 1 none   F200-69-50 frame Pacific blue
01e 1 none   F200-70-50 frame Green
01f 1 none   F200-71-50 frame White
02a 1 none   F210-66-50 fender Black
02b 1 none   F210-67-50 fender Silver grey
02c 1 none   F210-68-50 fender Burgundy
02d 1 none   F210-69-50 fender Pacific blue
02e 1 none   F210-70-50 fender Green
02f 1 none   F210-71-50 fender White
u03 1 none   F225-00-50 plastic chrome strip
u04 1 none   F220-00-50 wire harness cover (cable tray)
u05 2 $0.80 H661-20-50 phillips screw M6 x 12
u06 2 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u07 2 $0.60 H660-90-50 phillips screw M6 x 9(10)
u08 2 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u09 1 none   D437-00-50 wire harness early 1978
09a 1 none   D437-10-50 wire harness late-78-on
u10 1 none   D438-00-50 ignition coil WTEMCO
10a 1 $6.00 D438-pl-cap spark plug cap (screw-on)
10b 2 $1.20 D438-bolt coil mount bolt M6x40 phillips
10c 2 $5.00 D438-tube coil mount spacer ∅6×15
10d 2 $0.30 D438-nut coil mount nut M6
u11 3 $1.60 H489-00-50 engine mount bolt M8x90 hex
u12 1 none   F228-00-50 ID tag sticker
u13 1 none   F224-10-50 Indian head tank sticker left
u13 1 none   F224-20-50 Indian head tank sticker right
u14 1 none   F226-00-50 gas cap w/2 keys 90°-turn odd-size
14a 1 $9.00 gas key 241-250 241, 242, 243, 244, 250
14b 1 none   gas key 321-330 none
14b 1 $9.00 gas key 351-360 353, 358

u15 1 none   F221-00-50 original petcock M16-1.5 side-mount
u15 1 $22.0 634983 substitute petcock M16-1.5 vert.
15A 1 none   F000-00-00 turnbuckle nut M16-1.5 R and L
15B 1 none   F220-21-50 outer seal ring ∅12 ∅16 x 2
15B 1 $5.00 F220-21sub substitute ring ∅10 ∅16 x 1
15C 1 none   F000-00-00 valve body 20.9 ID
15D 1 none   F000-00-00 trap filter disk 19 x 1.5
15E 1 none   F000-00-00 trap seal ring 15 x 19 x 2
15F 1 none   F000-00-00 trap cup M20-1.0

15G 1 $11.0 F220-22-50 inner seal disk D10 ∅20.5 x 3.2
15H 1 none   F000-00-00 handle plate 23.5 OD
15I  2 none   F000-00-00 wave washer 20 x 16 x 0.3
15J  1 none   F000-00-00 face plate 17 ID
15K 2 $0.80 F000-00-00 face screw M3-0.50 x 6 phillips
u16 1 $1/ft   F222-00-50 fuel hose (no clip nec.) 3/16″ clear
u17 2 none   F223-00-50 hose clip (for original hose only)
u18 3 $0.20 H108-00-50 engine mount washer M8
u19 3 $0.60 H208-00-50 engine mount nut M8-1.25

Gas Valve: is unique. It has the M16-1.5 thread of a 1970’s Honda, but instead of being a more common “up and down” or vertical mount, it is a “sideways” or horizontal mount. The supply ran out long ago in the late 1980’s.

Inner seal disk: Usually the valve is good except it leaks or does not shut off completely, because the rubber seal disk is old and damaged (shrunken, hardened, or cracked). The remedy is a new rubber disk, 15G above (also Section C item D10 in Gas Valves).

Outer rubber ring: There is a 16 mm groove in the middle of the turnbuckle nut. That is where the 13 x 17 x 2 substitute outer ring fits, tightly. On the way in it has to fold to pass over 14.5 mm inner threads. But once in the groove it can unfold and fit tightly.

Substitute gas valve: The only known substitute is a vertical mount type. It fits and shuts the gas on and off. Mounted sideways on an Indian, the handle faces upward, instead of outward. Your fingers cannot reach it through the cover hole, made for the original petcock. So the cover has to be removed, to reach the handle. Also because it is mounted sideways, there is no reserve capability. It is listed if the Gas Valves department section A, item A35.

The Indian gas cap is different from all other mopeds. The search for a substitute is ongoing…

 

 

 

 

 

Gas cap: It is a common quarter-turn type with an uncommon size. The gas cap bottom part is 36 mm outer diameter, for gas tank holes 37 mm inner diameter. Almost all other quarter-turn moped gas caps are 28-29 or 38-39 mm outer diameter, for gas tank holes 30 or 40 mm inner diameter.

 

Electrical versions: The first Indian’s batteries had an eyelet black (minus) wire, a permanent ground. But anyone could operate the lights without a key. So in late 1978 they added a key switch to the fork lock. The fork yoke had to change to accommodate it. The 1979-81 electric fork lock did two things when the key was removed. 1) shut off the lights and horn (by un-grounding the black battery wire) 2) it also killed/locked the ignition (by grounding the blue ignition wire). The later wiring D437-10-50 has the battery wire and the 2 fork lock wires. The early wiring harness D437-00-50 did not have those extra three wires. The early-1978 battery had an eyelet-connector minus wire. After late-78 it had a female bullet black (minus) wire. Then the battery could be switched off.

 

 

 

 

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Section 11a – Stickers and stripes
 cool stripes:  yellow, green, blue, dark blue
warm stripes: yellow, orange, red, dark red
1R 1 $10.0 F344-01-79 cool stripes, front R
1R 1 none   F343-01-79 warm stripes, front R
1L 1 $10.0 F344-02-79 cool stripes, front L
1L 1 none   F343-02-79 warm stripes, front L
2R 1 none   F344-03-79 cool stripes, rear R
2R 1 none   F343-03-79 warm stripes, rear R
2L 1 none   F344-04-79 cool stripes, rear L
2L 1 none   F343-04-79 warm stripes, rear L
3R 1 $6.00 F344-05-79 cool stripes, lower R
3R 1 none   F343-05-79 warm stripes, lower R
3L 1 $6.00 F344-06-79 cool stripes, lower L
3L 1 none   F343-06-79 warm stripes, lower L
4R 1 $5.00 F343-07-79 four stroke R yellow
4L 1 $5.00 F343-08-79 four stroke L yellow
05 2 none   F345-01-79 Indian gold script
06 2 $6.00 F345-02-79 four stroke gold script

 

The color stripe stickers have creases and folds where the sticky part has been exposed to air and dust for many years. So in places it might not stick good, and/or it might have a slight bump or ridge in places where it was folded for 20 years. They are sold as is and priced accordingly.  

The gold script tank and side stickers are also old, but not wrinkled. They peel off the back paper OK, but the front paper sticks and tears. It must be carefully removed piece by piece. 

 

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Section 12 – Seat and Rack
.# qty price  Indian part#  description
u01 1 none   F560-00-50 dual person seat
u02 1 none   F561-00-50 catch for seat
u03 1 none   F562-00-50 spring for seat
u04 2 $0.60 H481-50-50 hex bolt M8 x 15(16)
u05 2 $0.25 H108-00-50 lock washer M8
u06 2 $0.80 H661-20-50 phillips screw M6 x 12
u07 2 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u08 2 $0.30 H206-00-50 nut M6
09a 1 none   F564-66-50 seat tray Black
09b 1 none   F564-67-50 seat tray Silver grey
09c 1 none   F564-68-50 seat tray Burgundy
09d 1 none   F564-69-50 seat tray Pacific blue
09e 1 none   F564-70-50 seat tray Green
09f 1 none   F564-71-50 seat tray White
u10 1 none   F563-00-50 release knob M6 x 15-20
u11 1 none   F566-00-50 rubber grommet
u12 1 none   F565-00-50 tool kit
13a 1 none   F360-00-50 luggage rack 1978
13b 1 none   F360-10-50 wider rack 1979-81
u14 2 $0.80 H661-20-50 phillips screw M6 x 12
u15 2 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u16 2 $0.30 H206-00-50 nut M6
u17 2 $0.80 H661-20-50 phillips screw M6 x 12
u18 2 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u19 2 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u20 2 $0.30 H206-00-50 nut M6
u21 1 none   F361-00-50 rear fender brace
u22 2 $0.80 H661-20-50 phillips screw M6 x 12
u23 2 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u24 2 $0.30 H206-00-50 nut M6

 

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Section 13 – Exhaust and Swing arm
.# qty price  Indian part#  description
u01 1 none   F553-00-50 exhaust complete
u02 2 $0.30 H206-00-50 nut M6
u03 2 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u04 2 $0.30 H206-00-50 nut M6
u05 1 none   F551-00-50 heat shield cover
u06 3 $4.00 F550-00-50 clip for heat shield
u07 1 $4.00 F552-10-50 exhaust gasket copper ring
u08 1 none   F429-00-50 swing arm
u09 1 none   F424-00-50 hex bolt for swing arm M10 x 190
u10 2 $0.30 H110-00-50 flat washer M10
u11 2 none   F423-00-50 swing arm bushing Ø10 Ø??
u13 1 $0.80 H210-00-50 nut M10-1.25
u14 2 $4.00 F425-00-50 chain adjuster = 407500
u15 2 $0.20 H106-10-50 flat washer M6
u16 2 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u17 2 $0.30 H206-00-50 nut M6
u18 1 $0.20 F430-00-50 zip tie for brake cable

 

 

 

Indian passenger footpegs bolt to the swingarm through long 10 x 50mm holes. The pegs had 10mm posts welded to them. Substitute foot pegs just have a hole, and would use a 10 x 60 bolt instead.

 

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Section 14 – Shocks, pedals, stand
u01 2 none   F410-00-50 shock (1) blk/chrome adj. Ø10 x 310
01a 2 $35.0 F140-subst. shock (1) red/chrome adj.  Ø10 x 310
u02 2 none   H410-35-50 hex bolt, upper shock M10 x 35 
u03 2 none   F414-00-50 upper collar Ø10 Ø15 x 21
u04 2 none   F413-00-50 upper rubber Ø15 Ø23 x 21
u05 4 $0.30 H110-00-50 flat washer M10
u06 2 none   F417-00-50 lower collar Ø10 Ø15 x 21
u07 2 none   F418-00-50 lower rubber Ø15 Ø23 x 21
u08 2 $4.00 F415-00-50 chrome dome nut  M10 x 1.25
u09 1 none  F526-01-50 pedal arm R original 9/16-20 RH
09a 1 $25.0 F526-subst. right arm straight 5″ 504R
u10 1 $27.0 F525-01-50 pedal arm L original 9/16-20 RH
10a 1 $25.0 F525-subst. left arm straight 5″ 504L
u11 1 $9.00 F521-00-50 right pedal classic 9/16-20 RH
11a 1 $18.0 F520+F521  pedal set R & L 9/16-20
u12 1 $9.00 F520-00-50 left pedal classic 9/16-20 LH
12a 1 $18.0 F520+F521  pedal set R & L 9/16-20
u13 1 none   F510-65-50 centerstand
u14 1 $2.00 F511-00-50 centerstand hinge pin
u15 1 $0.30 H110-00-50 flat washer M10
u16 1 $0.50 H501-00-50 cotter pin  1.5 mm
u17 1 none   F512-00-50 centerstand spring
u18 2 $2.00 F527-00-50 pedal wedge pin  9.5 mm
u19 2 $0.20 H106-10-50 flat washer M6
u20 2 $0.30 H206-00-50 nut M6

 

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Section 15 – Chain, Covers, Air filter 
u01 1 none   F416-00-50 chain guard 
u02 2 $0.60 H650-90-50 phillips M5 x 9(10) 
u03 2 $0.25 H105-00-50 lock washer M5
u04 1 none   F420-00-50 orig. chain w/master TYC 415 x 92L
04a 0 $20.0 F420-subst. substitute chain w/master 415Hx92L
u05 1 $3.00 F419-00-50 original chain master link #5d
05a 0 $3.00 F419-subst. substitute chain master link #3d
u06 1 none   F340-65-50 engine cover right
u07 1 none   F341-65-50 engine cover left
u08 1 none   F347-00-50 R cover screw with knob M6 x 58
08a 1 $1.20 F347-subst. hex bolt M6 x 60
u09 1 $6.00 F346-00-50 L cover screw with knob M6 x 64
09a 1 $1.00 F346-subst. hex bolt M6 x 65
u10 1 none   F530-00-50 air cover (air box)
u11 1 none   F535-00-50 air filter
u12 1 $35.0 F536-00-50 rubber tube Keihin ∅27.8 x ∅28
12a 1 none   F536-10-50 rubber tube Mikuni ∅27.8 x ∅20
12b 1 $6.00 F536-20-50 adapter ring ∅19.5 x ∅28 x 10
u13 2 none   F537-00-50 air filter spring clip
u14 1 $0.80 H661-20-50 phillips screw M6 x 12
u15 1 $0.80 H661-50-50 phillips screw M6 x 15(16)
u16 2 $0.20 H106-10-50 flat washer M6

 

 

 

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Section 16 – Speedometer, head light, battery
u01 1 $80.0 F610-00-50 speedo. with cover Tatung 50mph
01a 1 $50.0 F610-bare   speedometer bare Tatung 50mph
01b 1 $55.0 F610-subst. speedo. with cover Tatung 50mph
u02 2 $2.00 F615-00-50 rubber bushing
u03 2 $0.30 H206-00-50 nut M6
u04 2 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u05 2 $0.30 H206-00-50 nut M6
u06 1 $8.00 D430-00-50 speedometer wiring
u07 3 $2.00 D222-00-50 instrument bulb 6V 1.5W BA9s #51
u08 1 $40.0 C120-00-50 speedometer cable silver Indian
u8a 1 $25.0 C120-subst. speedometer cable black General
u09 1 none   D210-00-50 headlight sealed beam 6V25W 4767
09a 1 $32.0 D210-subst. headlight replaceable bulb
u10 1 $25.0 F350-00-50 headlight rim chrome
u11 4 $1.50 F352-00-50 headlight wire clip
u12 1 none   F351-00-50 headlight case chrome
u13 1 none   F354-00-50 headlight grommet
u13 1 $1.50 F354-subst. slit hose substitute
u14 1 $25.0 D425-00-50 flasher 6V 16W bullet connectors
14a 1 $10.0 D425-subst. flasher 6V 21W blade connectors
u15 1 $0.80 H661-20-50 phillips screw M6 x 12
u16 1 $0.20 H106-10-50 flat washer M6
u17 1 $32.0 D410-00-50 battery 6N2-2A-I1 (early 1978)
17a 1 $32.0 D410-10-50 battery 6N2-2A-I2  (late-78-on)
u18 1 none   D420-00-50 rectifier male bullet female bullet
18a 1 $25.0 D420-subst. rectifier female blade male bullet
u19 1 $1.00 H662-50-50 phillips screw M6 x 25
u20 1 $0.20 H106-10-50 flat washer M6
u21 1 none   D411-00-50 battery strap
u22 1 $2.00 H650-90-50 phillips-raised-flat screw M5 x 9
uxx 1 none   D201-00-50 headlight assy
uxx 1 none   D441-00-50 BL switch red & grn/yel
uxx 1 $23.0 D441-subst. BL switch red & white

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Battery Wires: As mentioned above in the frame section, there is an early and a late wiring version. The early wiring had no shut off key switch. The battery was always grounded/bolted (and thus active or “on”) to the frame . The Indian early 6N2-2A-I1 battery had an eyelet connector on the black wire, an Indian logo on the front, and double female plus single female bullet connectors on the red wire. The Indian late 6N2-2A-I2 battery was the same except for a female bullet on the black wire. The grey scale battery (late) image is a edited copy, but the color image below of the wires (late) is real. 

 

 

Indian Wires: In the wiring diagram you can see how the fork lock switch was added on to an earlier version, where the battery ground eyelet used to be. The fork lock wire labeled BK and colored black is actually green. The long BL blue fork lock wire that is shown plugged into the double female bullet above the engine, is actually short and plugs into a single female bullet above the fork lock. So one of the double blue female bullets is unused, as seen above in an actual photo.

Rectifier Wires: The square black thing with red and green wires is the (half-wave) rectifier. It changes (half of) the AC, from the green wire, to rippled DC at the (+) red wire, for battery charging. Notice that on the Indian rectifier the (+)red wire is male bullet, (-)green is female bullet. The other Taiwan mopeds with that identical square black rectifier, General, Lazer, AMS, etc, almost have opposite wires. Their (+)red is female blade, and their (-)green is male bullet. Watch out!

 

 

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Section 17 – Turn signals, tail light
 1A 1 none   D510-01-50 L front signal, long arm ∅13.8 x 105
 1B 1 none   D510-02-50 R front signal, long arm ∅13.8 x 105
 1C 1 none   D510-11-50 L rear signal, short arm ∅13.8 x 75
 1D 1 none   D510-12-50 R rear signal, short arm ∅13.8 x 75
 1E 1 $27.0 D510-12sub L or R turn signal, no arm
u01 4 $10.0 D514-00-50 turn signal case
u02 4 $7.00 D513-00-50 TS reflector
u03 4 $2.00 D221-00-50 turn signal bulb 6V 10W #81
u04 4 $3.00 D512-00-50 TS rubber seal
u05 4 none   D511-00-50 TS lens w/Indian logo
05a 4 $6.00 D511-subst. TS lens USA-made
06a 2 none   D515-00-50 TS arm short chrome ∅13.8 x 75
6aS 2 $10.0 D515-00sub  arm requires sleeve ∅13.3 x 56
06b 2 $17.0 D515-01-50 TS arm long chrome ∅13.8 x 105
6bS 2 $10.0 D515-01sub  arm requires sleeve ∅13.3 x 85
6bS 2 $10.0 the sleeve is a strip from an aluminum can
06c 2 $16.0 D515-10-50? TS arm clamp-on bar ∅13.8
u07 4 $1.00 H653-00-50 hex bolt M6 x 30
u08 4 $0.20 H106-10-50 washer M6
u09 4 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u10 4 $0.30 H206-00-50 nut M6
u11 8 $0.80 H632-20-50 phillips screw M3-0.60 x 22
u12 4 $0.80 H650-60-50 phillips screw M5 x 6
u13 4 $0.25 H105-00-50 lock washer M5
u14 1 $32.0 D225-00-50 tail light lens for Cateye TL-800
u15 2 none  H661-20-50 phillips screw M4 x 52(50)
u16 1 $42.0 D226-00-50 tail light case for Cateye TL-800
16a 1 $12.0 D226-gasket lens gasket used
u17 1 $2.00 D220-00-50 brake & tail bulb 6V 21/5W #1154
u18 1 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u19 2 $0.80 H661-20-50 phillips screw M6 x 12

u20 2 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u21 2 $0.80 H662-00-50 phillips screw M6 x 20
u22 2 $0.80 H661-20-50 phillips screw M6 x 12
u23 2 $0.25 H106-00-50 lock washer M6
u24 1 none   F310-00-50 tail light bracket for Cateye TL-800
uxx 1 $70.0 D230-00-50 tail light assy Cateye TL-800

 

Turn signals: These Indian round turn signals, that clamp on to a round post, are Taiwan copies of early 1970’s Honda ones (made by Stanley). The Stanley ones are metal, not chrome plated plastic, and have a slightly bigger post and clamp diameter. A 1973 Honda (Stanley) turn signal needs a strip of aluminum can, a single layer, to clamp on to a 1979 Taiwan moped turn signal post.

Handlebar Mounted Front Turn Signals: These shiny aluminum mounts clamp the front turn signals to the handlebars where they’re protected. Say good bye to broken front signals! They’re not in the 1978-81 Indian Parts Books (by American Moped Associates), but they are in the 1982 Indian Operators Guide (by Leone Accessories – Indian Motor Company), at right. So they are included here in the Indian parts “reunion”. The normal front turn signal chrome posts, with M10 x 1.25 threads, screw into the Taiwan head light body to hold it on. When handlebar mounted turn signals are used, M10 x 1.25 x 20 chrome hex bolts hold the head light on. This also gives a cleaner look, although the signals droop down at an angle (because of the handlebar angle).

 

 

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